BlazBlue: General thread.

Well that's silly, what would a song about a semi monster/human person with white hair and wears a jacket who also loses an arm to a corrupted family member wielding a Katana have to do with Ragna?

... Wait a minute...

Just saying. Plus, the lyrics really fit Ragna well:

"The darkest of night falls around my soul

And the hunter within loses control

Gotta let it out Gotta let it out Gotta let it out Gotta let it out

This demon inside has a hold of me

Clutching its power trying to break free

Gotta let it out Gotta let it out Gotta let it out Gotta let it out

Move fast baby, don't be slow Step aside, reload, time to go

I can't seem to control All this rage that's inside me

Hold it fast, they've been dancing on this Branded by fire born in the abyss

Red hot temper, I just can't resist All this vengeance inside me

All of these thoughts running through my head I'm on fire, face burning red Frustration is getting bigger

Bang bang bang Pull my Devil Trigger

Embrace the darkness that's within me No hiding in the shadows anymore

When this wickedness consumes me Nothing can save you And there's no way out

I'm a wildfire you won't tame Not even my temper can put out the flame

There's no way to contain This storm swelling inside me

I'm a bomb you can't defuse I would just accept you're gonna lose

Can't turn down, I refuse To hold back anymore

All of these voices inside of my head Blinding my sight in a curtain of red Frustration is getting bigger

Bang bang bang Pull my Devil Trigger

When the light ends, it's not over Weave right through to get closer

Like a silver bullet piercing through I throw myself into you

All of these voices inside of my head Blinding my sight in a curtain of red Frustration is getting bigger

Bang bang bang Pull my Devil Trigger"

edited 13th Jun '18 4:20:17 AM by LDragon2

The 20% (later 40%) is the Jin's soul inside of the Unit, happened because the soul resists being pulled outside Boundary resulting in the divide.. Terumi's soul has no such problem when he wield it. There's nothing wrong with the Unit.

Besides the difference is seen back to back in CF climax; Ragna beat Hakumen (40%) handily while Susano'o (100%) one shots him.

edited 13th Jun '18 5:55:58 AM by asdfr

I need to pinpoint one thing for one article I'm planning to write, in draft.

How was it that we were all impressed with BB's story in the first place? And eventually... what was the point that it started declining to the point that it's a messy Broken Base with people saying the story is shit or too convulted?

In my experience, two reasons. One is that the series was a pioneer in story modes for 2D Fighting Games. It certainly wasn't the first, since Soul Calibur and Guilty Gear X2 had been doing it even earlier, but Blaz Blue emerged in the budding modern Fighting Game scene back in 2009 with full visual novel cutscenes with unique sprites (Something Guilty Gear didn't have), C Gs, animated cutscenes and other story routes.

The second reason is despite the very 2010s anime aesthetic (Or a very Fate esc aesthetic) the characters all had memorable designs, stood out and felt unique, had well done animations that conveyed alot even without knowing the stories, and in story mode proper had a strong English voice cast to bring them to life.

I think it was around CO was when things started to get confusing and frusterating, with side materials that were unlocalized suddenly becoming vital plot pieces seeming to come out of left field. Side characters started getting shafted since we shifted from an "everyone's story + 1 true story" to "1 long story+ whatever the he'll sector 7 side was"

..... What does CO stand for?

(Also it's funny that in other games like the ones in NRS games (MK and Injustice), the '1 long story' format was praised. I dunno how it wouldn't work for BB, but worked wonderfully for those. It'll be good for writing materials too)

That's an answer to one half of the question. Bleck has answered for the second part, but I'm sure everyone have different reasons, therefore you can try answering with your own reason.

edited 22nd Jun '18 7:29:12 AM by ChrisX

CT still has a core focus on Ragna and his stuff, but other characters had their own stories, but later on instead of giving importance to beloved side characters new characters were introduced as a Spotlight-Stealing Squad, and they were often less compelling than the original cast.

Also, MK and Injustice aren't afraid to kill off characters in the story, wheras BB was.

edited 22nd Jun '18 12:04:35 PM by Sigilbreaker26

To be fair, if you don't feature your new characters, they end up feeling pointless (i.e. Hibiki and Bullet)

So it's really a case by case basis

Its all about the balance.

I dunno, the decline seems to be more than side characters getting shafted. Even more than that, can you say how the newcomers were 'less compelling'? I mean, in what way? Also, which newcomers? CP one or CF one?

Not that I'm saying your opinions are invalidated, but I'd hope you'd explore more on your statement.

The NRS games' decisions to kill off their characters is another can of problems, but perhaps you can explain further on why 'kill off characters' work with 'long story format' that NRS games has an edge over it when BB lost the edges because of not killing its characters.

Well, you want my opinion, CP was just extremely boring overall in terms of plot; don't get me wrong, I loved a lot of the individual character moments, but pretty much the entire plot takes place in Kagura's office it felt like and the villains don't actually start doing anything until literally the climax.

In CT and CS, shit was escalating constantly so you kind of felt some sense of progression that just kind of halted with CP and didn't pick up until CF, and even then 25% of the that game is just a recap of CT.

I was asking Sigil's response, but this is fine...

So far the result seems to be 'In CP, everything is starting to become shit'. This is where the gratuitous uses of Ass Pull become more apparent, right?

Also I might want to know which ones count as 'beloved side characters' and which ones are 'new Spotlight-Stealing Squad characters'. And was the main focus on Dark War a good thing? Because there seems to be a greater focus on the Dark War since CP.

The Dark War was integral to the lore, so I'm not surprised.

It's the Prime Field Device War that I felt didn't get enough focus, but that's what happens something new happens in the last game.

Likely PFD War would get another nod in BBDW

Oh my, that CO was meant to be a CP, my mistake

What I read; many story opinions, West-exclusive are changed in CP solely because of Celica's presence. Aside from Spotlight-Stealing Squad, I think What Measure Is a Non-Badass?, American Kirby Is Hardcore (as she's Moe to them) also play the factor. And ofc the Phase Shift novels that has a case No Export for You making them know nothing about her and thinking she's Outside-Context Problem. Also they call her Mary Sue because for them "not only nowhere, but also contains powers which are Achilles' Heel for villains" (Seithr suppressing) when she already have that in Phase Shift, and that's not used to cripple villains.

Also for unknown reasons some start to say that BB runs on The Power of Friendship (even CT ones)... BTW what are the "Gratuitous Ass Pull" you talking about? Are those similar to rndmnbdy's lists?

Edited by asdfr on Jul 6th 2018 at 6:55:13 AM

See, the thing about reasons to call her Mary Sue as you stated was explained in your previous statement that her debut novel got No Export for You treatment.

... American Kirby Is Hardcore and Americans Hate Tingle play factors in how Celica was derided. So tell me again how popularity didn't matter in the long run? Pretty sure it will have an effect on who will be the 'beloved side character'.

Didn't matter to/for what, specifically? It can only be judged in a case by case basis.

Sooooo Amazon managed to offer my sis a lightning deal for BBCF limited eidion for a low $40. Bit that hook faster than tao in a sugar rush.

havent even opened it yet, been wanting this baby for years ;w;. Now lets see how this story ends...

>Almost two years after the game came out.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Jul 15th 2018 at 3:40:42 PM

>Two years

>$40

>Low

Pft. Hope you meant $20.

For the Limited Edition? I'd say that's not bad.

The next day the same package jumped to $90.

Also every time i tried to buy this game it was in some warehouse states away or unavailable at all. Every. Single. Time.

Was going to wait until after evo just in case like cf2 now with dub happens, but that deal was too sweet to ignore.

That and it was going to expire within 10 minutes of me noticing. Lightning deals don't fuck around.

Well, hope you enjoy it lol