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WoolieWool Heading for tomorrow Since: Jan, 2001
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#126: May 31st 2010 at 7:53:13 PM

Sprites for a weapon mod (not Mutiny) that I'm working on. The original camo marine base was made by my buddy Xim, and I changed the heads, the boots, and recolored the upper one to an arctic pattern.

This mod is much more realistic than Mutiny, with muzzle climb, reloading, etc.

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#127: May 31st 2010 at 7:58:25 PM

Very nice work. Seeing camo patterns on the marines is refreshing seeing as how the default Doo M palette is kinda comic-book-bright. Goes well with the grittier techbase WA Ds.

Also, Mutiny goes along great with the Suspended In Dusk levels.

DickRichardson Ole Tricky Dick from Poseidon Oil Rig Since: Jun, 2009
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#128: May 31st 2010 at 8:03:42 PM

Huh.

Got it screwed up...

How much was Doom, then? I know it's not much...

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WoolieWool Heading for tomorrow Since: Jan, 2001
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#129: May 31st 2010 at 8:49:29 PM

Also, Mutiny goes along great with the Suspended In Dusk levels.

Another friend of mine posted a video of that:

And the music the first part is set to qualifies as Crowning Music Of Awesome.

How much was Doom, then? I know it's not much...

10 bucks on Steam, I think. It was $40 when it was first released in 1993.

edited 31st May '10 8:50:11 PM by WoolieWool

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EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#130: May 31st 2010 at 8:55:36 PM

@Charlatan: Hey, I liked how bright and colorful everything was in the original.

Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#131: May 31st 2010 at 8:58:36 PM

I didn't say I thought the original was bad, just that some dirtier palettes were an interesting change of pace.

That much said, I love the crystal blue used in Mutiny and other WA Ds.

WoolieWool Heading for tomorrow Since: Jan, 2001
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#132: May 31st 2010 at 10:11:01 PM

The current 2.5 version is a blend of the blues from Zen Dynamics, Sapphire, and Enjay's Marine Assault, and it has greens from Strife, reds from Enjay's Marine Assault, and a yellow/gold range that I created mysel, and that blue sky range I pimped previously. Did you notice those color changes?

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#133: May 31st 2010 at 10:11:46 PM

I don't think I noticed the yellow/gold.

I think I noticed the greens, and I can't remember if I noticed the reds.

What is Sapphire?

And do you have a link for Marine Assault? I loved that WAD so, but baleeted it a while ago for reasons I forget. I think Z Doom issues.

edited 31st May '10 10:13:38 PM by Charlatan

JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#134: Jun 1st 2010 at 12:20:58 PM

I never bought DOOM. I only played the shareware version. smile

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#135: Jun 1st 2010 at 12:26:34 PM

When I played the shareware in 2004 out of sheer boredom/curiousity I was amazed at how cracky I found a decade-old game to be.

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#136: Jun 1st 2010 at 2:45:13 PM

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/470460

For those who wish to relive the classics again, a triple pack of the shareware versions of Doom, Heretic, and Hexen. No music, sadly, but still fun.

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WoolieWool Heading for tomorrow Since: Jan, 2001
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#137: Jun 1st 2010 at 3:16:13 PM

^^^^ Sapphire is one or Tormentor667's wads.

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
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#138: Jun 1st 2010 at 9:53:30 PM

I played the shareware in 1993. lol

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#139: Jun 3rd 2010 at 1:57:09 AM

This thread is now about Hexen.

I'm playing the shareware in Zdoom and I'm a shirtless Viking guy and I just punched an entire level to death and a giant flaming skull asked me if I was ready to die and omfg this game is METAL.

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#140: Jun 3rd 2010 at 7:25:13 AM

^I played Hexen a ton back in the day, and I must say your description caught me off-guard. Can't say I ever thought about the game that way.

My preferred class was always the Cleric, though. He's practically easy-mode, especially when going up against the bastard Herisarches.

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#141: Jun 3rd 2010 at 1:23:53 PM

...I just realized the Fighter has better reach with his fist than the Cleric does with his mace.

Or maybe it just seems that way since the Fighter apparently punches faster than the Cleric swings.

Blackmoon Your Worth is 50 Yen! from the Blind Eternities Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Halfway to Pon Farr
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#142: Jun 3rd 2010 at 1:30:54 PM

The worst part of that game is that each class has a weapon I adore, and the rest are sorta meh.

I mean, Timon's Axe is the shit, the Arc Lightning is fuggin' amazing, and Wraithverge is god-tier.

Why can't I just get those and cull the lame stuff? sad

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Ulti Since: Mar, 2010
#143: Jun 3rd 2010 at 1:39:03 PM

Hexen, like certain Doom levels, literally bores me nauseous. If I go for too long in these games looking over an entire level for some hidden button, and I still don't know what it opened when I find it (I swear Hexen has more buttons than walls), I lose interest fast and start feeling queasy. Might be that the exciting parts dampen the motion sickness.

I also feel the enemies have way too many HP, making fights prolonged until you find the good weapons.

But the awesome parts are still awesome.

edited 3rd Jun '10 1:40:32 PM by Ulti

Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#144: Jun 3rd 2010 at 1:44:20 PM

@Moonpie: I dunno, I haven't grown bored with punching things just yet. tongue

@Ulti: Well, flechette flasks make it a bit easier...Play as cleric (or whoever gets the poisonous ones) and leave them at a corner as an enemy comes around!

And which Doo M levels bore you?

Blackmoon Your Worth is 50 Yen! from the Blind Eternities Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Halfway to Pon Farr
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#145: Jun 3rd 2010 at 1:52:04 PM

Yeah, Hexen's a pretty slow game. But at least it's hella atmospheric. For its time, it was pretty beautiful.

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Ulti Since: Mar, 2010
#146: Jun 3rd 2010 at 2:56:33 PM

Yeah, the atmosphere and detail in Hexen is excellent. Its world is a lot more tangible than many similar games, and it's scarier than Doom, with the exception of the Arch-Vile and Cyberdemon.

To me the boring Doom levels were the ones where you have to hunt for switches/doors, or rather when I walked off the intended path and forgot where I was going. Hexen alleviated it somewhat with the random respawns to keep you on your toes. As cool as the relatively open-ended levels were in these games, sometimes you're left with no directions. When loading an old save in Hexen you might as well restart the "episode".

I think the most awesome and memorable level in Doom is still E 1 M 8. The boss, the walls lowering, and the twist ending accompanied by the level's despair-filled music left quite an impression.

JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#147: Jun 3rd 2010 at 2:58:10 PM

Hexen II allowed you to fling sheep from a catapult. A CATAPULT.

(Then yourself.)

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Blackmoon Your Worth is 50 Yen! from the Blind Eternities Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Halfway to Pon Farr
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#148: Jun 3rd 2010 at 3:05:06 PM

Plus, E1M8 was the end of the shareware version. If that was all you had, like me, you remember it, heh.

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Darxzero Black Inches from The Mansion Since: May, 2009
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#149: Jun 3rd 2010 at 3:37:13 PM

The first thing I think about when I think "Doom" is that level where every enemy (or pretty much every enemy) is an Archvile. I hate those things so very much...

On the Hexen note, I played that for the first time earlier today. I died by angry gargoyle shockingly quickly...

edited 3rd Jun '10 3:37:29 PM by Darxzero

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Stranger goat milk? from Nowhere in particular Since: Nov, 2009
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#150: Jun 3rd 2010 at 6:15:17 PM

I loved E1M8, but I thought E2M8 outdid it.

Some of the levels did get really mazey, but when I first played Doom, my only comparison to other games of the type was Wolfenstein (since not much else existed). Doom levels were nothing compared the mazes of Wolfenstein.

edited 3rd Jun '10 6:17:01 PM by Stranger


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