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Edited by Twiddler on Aug 6th 2023 at 11:53:14 AM

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#4552: Jan 24th 2013 at 10:43:05 AM

Pretty sure we agreed that historical figures only get tropes about their appearance in media, not for themselves. Declining that.

Isn't Adolf Hitler is an exception? His page does have a rather large section (comprising several folders, in fact), of tropes that apply to himself - it even has the heading: "Adolf Hitler provides examples of the following".

I was just operating under the assumption that we were keeping it in force for him, seeing as how much effort has plainly gone into collating the examples.

edited 24th Jan '13 10:44:36 AM by Achaemenid

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#4553: Jan 24th 2013 at 3:42:26 PM

Just in case I needed to elaborate on this, the excerpt could be placed right after the phrase where Nasdaq threatened to delist it.

I now go by Graf von Tirol.
DrakeClawfang Since: Apr, 2010
#4554: Jan 24th 2013 at 5:29:53 PM

Requesting edit to Final Fantasy VII under Genesis's profile

  • The Paragon Always Rebels: While not as revered or powerful as Sephiroth, Genesis was still one of Shinra's greatest warriors before he turned on them. Fits the trope even better than Sephiroth, in that when he defects he takes a large number of other SOLDIER members with him.

Also, under Jenova's profile as a subheading under Expy is Fountain of Expies. The entry notes Jenova's various design aspects are taken from other sources, which seems a better case to note as Composite Character, if the example as it exists now is worth including at all.

edited 24th Jan '13 5:32:32 PM by DrakeClawfang

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#4557: Jan 25th 2013 at 7:30:12 AM

Two requests related to the Complete Monster cleanup.

One, we finally have a version of Monster.Web Original that nobody has any objections to, and it's been swapped in. I'd like to request a lock on the page.

Two, the following examples used to be on that page, but it was later determined that they properly belong in Monster.Fan Works instead. I'd like to request the following additions to the Fan Works page:

  • Kirby's version in There Will Be Brawl. He is nowhere close to the cute little marshmallow you grew up with. He is an outright cannibalisitic serial killer who takes delight in tormenting and torturing his victims. He is responsible for almost, everything that goes wrong in the Mushroom Kingdom. He killed many of the main characters, most of them being the few innocents left in this world, very gruesomely. He takes great pleasure in ruining Luigi's life, and killed the two women he loved the most. His motive? Sheer insanity. He also likes to torment his victims with their past.
  • Alexia from The Return who uses Mind Rape as a recruitment tool, turning unwilling humans into her compliant, loving daughter Succubi, and then gleefully abuses, discards, and uses them as Cannon Fodder; after all, it doesn't matter if they die - she can always make more. Of the villains so far, she might not have been the biggest, but certainly the scariest due to her ability and willingness to strike at our heroes' sense of identity and security. She also caused the most pain and suffering and was considered appalling even by the standards of other demons.
  • Sweet Tooth from Holy Musical B@man. He gleefully murders people using various sorts of deadly candy but doesn't become a Complete Monster until he reveals his final plan: he kidnaps Robin and sends a video message out to Batman, telling him that he has Robin and has started a Facebook poll asking Gotham to choose-either Robin dies or Sweet Tooth poisons the water supply. And if Batman tries saving Robin, he just poisons the water anyways. And he's never given any motivation, which means that this horrible Sadistic Choice and all his other crimes are most likely For the Evulz.
  • Mecha Sonic in Super Mario Bros. Z. As soon as he came into being (via Metal Sonic absorbing past models into himself), he destroys the Death Egg and forces it to crash-land on Mobius, causing an apocalypse. He then, while hunting down the Chaos Emeralds, also took the opportunity to kill Sonic's friends in extremely brutal ways (Tails by strangling him, Amy by beating her up, Knuckles by beating him up and then filling him up with machine-gun processed lead, and Cream and Cheese by apparently blowing her head off), and had wiped out most, if not all, of the planet's population and turned almost half of it into a burning wasteland. He was also the reason for Shadow's current personality, because he murdered Rouge and Omega, the only people he could call his friends. As soon as he arrived at the Mushroom Kingdom to recover the Chaos Emeralds, he also killed a Goomba who found a Chaos Emerald simply because he didn't give it to him, even though there was absolutely no way he could have known that was a Chaos Emerald. He then mercilessly beats up Yoshi to gain his chaos emerald (and says that he would have killed Yoshi anyways even if he did comply to his request). He later brutally killed both the Koopa Bros and the Axem Rangers X and destroyed Yoshi's Island. Not just scouring the surface, but hitting the island with a Sphere of Destruction so violent that it vaporised the entire island.
  • In the fan movie The Legend of Zelda: The Sage of Darkness, we have Davik, Link's uncle and also the titular villain. He seems to train Link in the ways of the Hero, only he's really attempting to feed Link hatred and anger in order to speed up Ganon's revival, even supplying him with the White Sword, one of Ganon's artifacts. He's also manipulating Ertegun for his own agenda, and it is also hinted that he also plans on betraying Ganon as part of his agenda as well. He also brutally murdered Link's parents as well as poisoned his own sister. The reason? None whatsoever, aside from possibly trying to get Link to go down the road of hatred even more. And his real plan is to extinguish the Cycle of Eternity, which may result in the destruction of the entire world, for no reason besides hating it for unspecified reasons. He's also a psychopath.
  • Red Dawn +20 has many terrible villains, with the biggest and baddest of them all being the GRU's General Sergei Khvostov, aka "The Butcher of Clear Lake City." His offenses include: arriving at Johnson Space Center in Houston and finding that NASA had managed to move everything (personnel, equipment, documentation) out of there before the invaders arrived, leaving only a mocking note "Catch us if you can," he responsed by ordering the massacre of the families of NASA contractors, astronauts, and anyone else left behind in Clear Lake City; bathing a Cuban officer (one of his nation's allies) in battery acid when they got into an argument over a mistress; massacring the town of Freer, Texas in response to an assassination attempt (that's implied to have actually been carried out by other elements of the KGB who found his methods counterproductive); and forcing the mayor of San Antonio to kill one of his staff, threatening to rape her and then kill her himself anyway if he didn't. (He complied).

Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
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#4559: Jan 25th 2013 at 8:34:12 AM

The second item in Barack Obama's Deadpan Snarker entry needs a typo fixed.

  • There's his reaction to the birthers where he opens up a roast of his political opponents with this video.

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Hi
#4561: Jan 25th 2013 at 10:02:28 AM

[up] ...was that intentional? evil grin

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Lost in Space
#4562: Jan 25th 2013 at 11:06:41 AM

Aye, it was, laddie! I've been watchin' gameplay commentary with wee awful Scottish accents.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
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TropeEater That One Troper from the depths of Hell Since: Mar, 2012
That One Troper
#4565: Jan 25th 2013 at 6:31:48 PM

Saya no Uta has a link to you-know-what.

   Evil is my favorite color.   
InsanityPrelude Since: Aug, 2009
#4566: Jan 25th 2013 at 7:16:33 PM

I don't know what you-know-what is, but while we're at it, this example on Saya no Uta should probably be nuked per Type Labels Are Not Examples:

H Game POV Character: Fuminori initially seems like a Type II B, but depending on route can wind up remaining this way, or descend all the way to a Type VI A or B, depending on your perspective.

(edit: markup fail. and would "you-know-what" be Naughty Tentacles?)

edited 25th Jan '13 7:18:58 PM by InsanityPrelude

videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#4567: Jan 25th 2013 at 7:18:13 PM

[up] I'm pretty sure he's referring to Naughty Tentacles.

edited 25th Jan '13 7:19:07 PM by videogmer314

InsanityPrelude Since: Aug, 2009
#4568: Jan 25th 2013 at 7:23:24 PM

Another Saya No Uta one, now that I'm reading the page: The Rape as Drama example needs to be fixed too on account of lack of explanation, nasty Unfortunate Implications and resulting responding-not-repairing.

Original example:

  • Rape as Drama: Happens to Saya and Yoh, though both get over it fairly quickly.
    • ...As long as you consider becoming a mindless sex doll "getting over it", in Yoh's case.

However, I haven't played the game, so I can't fix it without making it even more of a Zero Context Example. Halp?

edited 25th Jan '13 7:29:02 PM by InsanityPrelude

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#4569: Jan 26th 2013 at 12:08:39 AM

To Fighteer on post 4564: I was, thank you for anticipating that. smile

edited 26th Jan '13 12:08:49 AM by nombretomado

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Hi
#4570: Jan 26th 2013 at 6:34:39 AM

While I'm firmly in the "we need to eventually restore Naughty Tentacles" camp, that example does play it straight, so I'll move it to the discussion page. The H Game POV Character example is removed. As for the Rape as Drama example, I've never played it so I have no input.

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#4571: Jan 26th 2013 at 8:12:59 AM

Add this to the last paragraph of Zerg Rush descrip:

Subtrope of Quantity vs. Quality.

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#4572: Jan 26th 2013 at 11:18:45 AM

On Characters.The Bible, one instance of Main.Prince Of Egypt needs to be changed to WesternAnimation.The Prince Of Egypt, and Main.The Prince Of Egypt needs the WesternAnimation/ namespace, period.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#4573: Jan 26th 2013 at 2:33:39 PM

Per Discusion and votes here

To delete from Monster.Anime And Manga under the Rosario To Vampire section

  • Kiria. The mastermind of the Youkai Academy Fairy Tale arc, he also deliberately experiments on Hokuto to turn him from human into a human-hating monster. His excessive cruelty and deliberate corruption to turn a human against his own kind (something no other operative has done) is what leads me to think he belongs.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#4574: Jan 26th 2013 at 6:30:11 PM

[up][up][up], [up] Done.

[up][up] The namespacing on the character page is done. T Po E is already in the Western Animation/ namespace.

OccasionalExister Since: Jul, 2012
#4575: Jan 27th 2013 at 11:24:13 AM

With the approval of the forum dedicating to cleaning-up the Complete Monster trope, may the Monster.Halo and Monster.Super Robot Wars subpages be locked?

edited 27th Jan '13 11:24:31 AM by OccasionalExister


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