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This thread is for requesting edits or unlocks to Locked Pages or for requesting locks. It can also be used for technical requests to moderators such as creating new pages in the Main/ and other restricted namespaces without going through YKTTW.

Please keep the following guidelines in mind:

  1. Check Locked Pages and Permanent Red Link Club first. They can provide guidance on what are good and bad requests.
  2. Include working links in your request to the page(s) in question.
  3. Pages cut a while ago were automatically locked. Before asking for an unlock, make sure that the article you want to create is in the proper Namespace, has gone through YKTTW if it's a trope, and otherwise fulfills our guidelines for Creating New Pages.
  4. If asking for edits, state your changes exactly as they should appear on the page, including proper Example Indentation, namespacing, and pothole and quote formatting. And make sure that what you want to add is actually a valid example.
  5. We do not edit archived articles, even to correct links.
  6. Main redirects are no longer being created for namespaced work pages. Don't ask for one.
  7. Some locked pages have ongoing cleanup threads, like Complete Monster (Thread), Five-Man Band (Thread) and any locked Trope Pantheon page (Thread). Other than purely technical requests, edits to these pages ought to be discussed in these threads first.
  8. Work pages made in the wrong namespace, pages banned under The Content Policy and the 5P Circuit and subpages that are disallowed (like Headscratchers pages for tropes) are valid reasons for requesting page locks.

NOTE: Edited with OP's permission.

edited 29th Apr '16 10:03:05 AM by SeptimusHeap

2976 Xtifr24th Jun 2012 01:09:52 AM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
[up][up]That's not what I've been told. The goal is to get works out of main, is my understanding. [up][up][up]Pages are automatically locked when they're cut. The proper thread for requesting an unlock is here.

eta: anyway, this isn't the proper thread for discussing the matter. We should probably take it to one of the namespace work threads.

edited 24th Jun '12 1:13:31 AM by Xtifr

Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
2977 SeptimusHeap24th Jun 2012 01:18:24 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
[up]The main redirects are necessary to access the work page if it is on a namespace without an icon.
Small edit to the Fallen Creator page: It says: "In film scoring, Hans Zimmer protege Klaus Badelt was a rising star in film scoring with his work in action films such as The Time Machine and Equilibrium, with his high point being the score in Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. Then a pair of high-profile flops (Catwoman and Poseidon) combined with the reveal that the majority of the Pirates of the Caribbean was really the work of Zimmer (Badelt simply taking credit) irrepairably destroyed his career. He's still around but as a lower-tier composer in Zimmer's canon, scoring mostly little-seen indies and straight-to-DVD films."

I think for Badelt sake and for clarification, that the part about Pirates should rephrased along these lines: Pirates of the Caribbean was really the work of Zimmer, who at the time was under contract and couldn't score another film, but wrote the themes for Pirates and produced and oversaw it (Badelt basically assembled it).

Or something along those lines, as I found the way it was written, it felt sort of like Badelt "stole" credit for it, when it was more complicated.

Possible add to this entry: "The four members of The Beatles arguably didn't fall as far as some of the others on this list, but common consensus is that they never really hit the same heights in their solo careers as that they did in a group. It's generally argued that John Lennon and Paul McCartney particularly benefited from the other's strengths offsetting their respective weaknesses. After several years of solo releases of mixed critical and commercial success Lennon eventually retreated from the limelight for five years while McCartney's work although often commercially successful was generally dismissed by the critics. Of the other two, George Harrison had the most successful post-Beatles solo album (All Things Must Pass) unfortunately, that was his first solo album, and he never really recovered the critical and commercial success in his later albums. And to be generous to Ringo Starr, great things were never really expected of him compared to the other three, so while he had his successes he was never really in the same league."

With an added end along these lines: Ringo made things up by having the nicest private life, marrying a Bond girl and passing the torch to his son, Zak Starkey.

edited 24th Jun '12 12:41:13 PM by Gabel

2979 Willbyr24th Jun 2012 03:25:57 PM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
I think we're caught up to here, except for [up]; please rewrite what you want the examples to be as if they were actual page entries and they can be added in.
On the main Complete Monster page, I was wondering about adding the following line to the end of the description to clear up some ambiguity, (since I for one was confused as well before having it pointed out to me):

Please note that if a character In-Universe calls a villain a (complete) monster, that is an example of You Monster!.
2981 Willbyr24th Jun 2012 06:34:53 PM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
[up] Done.
2982 morenohijazo25th Jun 2012 06:06:09 AM from Zaragoza, Spain
Forofgold power!
Final Fantasy VII.

  • Layered Metropolis: Midgar. In all sectors (numbered 0-8), an upper plate separates the ground-level slums from the other districts. This plate also blocks sunlight (what little there is of it) from trickling down into the slums. Agents from Shinra Inc. activate a support structure's Self-Destruct Mechanism between both layers of Sector 7, causing a section of the plate to come loose and crush everyone beneath before sending an earthquake relief force on the plate. Ironically, Reeve later moves the entire population of Midgar into the slums to protect them from METEOR.
    • An additional secret level, only known as Deepground, is located below both Midgar and the Slums, only accessible via the Sector 0 reactor. (Dirge of Cerberus)
    • The military port city of Junon also has a small village under it, near the elevator to the city proper.

Seriously, my avatar comes from the embodiment of the So Bad, It's Good trope.
2983 Willbyr25th Jun 2012 06:41:23 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
[up] Done.
2984 SeptimusHeap25th Jun 2012 10:58:59 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
2985 Willbyr25th Jun 2012 11:26:13 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
[up] Done.
2986 SeptimusHeap25th Jun 2012 02:09:29 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Monster Girl Quest needs the double redirect removed by repointing it to Daily Life with Monster Girl.
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
[up]I don't think we ever cleared up whether those two were actually in the same universe, did we? A redirect might be somewhat misleading.
What's precedent ever done for us?
2988 SeptimusHeap25th Jun 2012 03:13:36 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
[up]Sure, but that's a topic for Content Violations. This is a purely technical request.
Updated linkage for an item on Seltzer and Friedberg:

PlayingWith.Distressed Damsel was cut due to the trope being renamed to Damsel in Distress. However, the subpage had 13 inbounds. Could the redirect be made to PlayingWith.Damsel In Distress?
2991 lu12725th Jun 2012 11:37:24 PM from 空蝉丸
Renamed subpages aren't redirected because they mess up with indexing. And 13 inbounds are barely above the threshold.

[up][up] That's done.
There has been a consensus that these characters qualify as Complete Monsters, and should be added to Video Games page. REMEMBER; don't add on the end of the page; only on the end of the first folder (the page has many sub-pages and three folders), since the game is no longer popular.

  • The Diablo series is home to quite a few monsters, and we're not just talking about the demons here (though the Great Evils and their minions definitely qualify).
    • Archbishop Lazarus, who played an integral role in King Leoric's descent into madness and eventual transformation into the Skeleton King, as well as manipulating him into torturing and executing many innocents in the guise of "protecting his kingdom" (up to and including his own queen), feeding Tristram's villagers and the odd adventurer to the demonic Butcher in the first game, and having Albrecht, one of Leoric's two sons, made a vessel for Diablo himself.
    • Maghda and her Dark Coven from Diablo III. In addition to their service to the evil Belial, which involves plenty of Human Sacrifice, they are very fond of Cold-Blooded Torture through magical and other means, and use it for many of their sorcerous rituals, such as the illusion over the Black Canyon Bridge in Act II. They are directly responsible for the massacre of Alcarnus in Act II (including one hair-raising report from a refugee about people there being flayed alive) as well as the near-destruction of the town of Wortham, and the murder of Deckard Cain and the torture of the now-human Tyrael.
    • The Inquisitors of the Templar Order, who were responsible for forcibly recruiting Kormac into the Order, piling false sins upon him, and torturing him into Laser-Guided Amnesia so that he would have Undying Loyalty toward the order in general.
    • Zoltun Kulle. This is a man who attempted to usurp his Horadric brethren by using the Black Soulstone to control the Great Evils, even murdering and dismembering his own wife just to fuel his twisted experiments with the Soulstone. Is it any wonder the Horadrim went to such extremes to keep him down?
      • One of the achievements related to him is even called "Murderer. Torturer. Monster.", which is pretty damn accurate.
    • But the worst monster of all besides the Great Evils has got to be Adria, who pledged herself to Diablo's service since first meeting Aidan in his Dark Wanderer guise, and had Leah with him for the sole purpose of using her as the vessel for Diablo's resurrection as the Prime Evil by means of the aforementioned Black Soulstone, which she successfully manipulates the heroes into finding and trapping the last two Lords of Hell into, in accordance to Diablo's grand plan. Adria's betrayal is the cruelest and most despicable one of the entire series, which not only kills poor Leah, but is directly responsible for allowing Diablo to kill a whole lot of people in Bastion's Keep and run roughshod all over the High Heavens in Act IV. The worst part is that this betrayal is the very last you see of Adria before she leaves through a portal to await being "called upon again" by the resurrected Diablo, and you don't even get to kill her in-game, which makes her a Karma Houdini.

edited 26th Jun '12 4:34:14 AM by Willbyr

2993 Willbyr26th Jun 2012 04:29:58 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
[up] I agree with that addition in general, but why at the end of the first folder, specifically? I also spoilered out a few things...that last entry could use some un-nattering, too.

Also, that page's general examples should probably be sorted by the game type rather than generic folders.

edited 26th Jun '12 4:34:54 AM by Willbyr

2994 Nohbody26th Jun 2012 04:57:06 AM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
On the Osama bin Laden page, please change Where's Waldo? to Where's Wally?.

edited 26th Jun '12 4:57:54 AM by Nohbody

I'm sorry for wasting you guys' time then.


Anywhere where I can learn these intricacies so I know better when and how to make these requests?

edited 26th Jun '12 8:28:41 AM by DarkConfidant

[up][up] It doesn't really need to be in the end of the last folder, really. I just always want everything to be clean and not messed up, and I agree they should be sorted by game type.
2997 Lightflame26th Jun 2012 09:38:33 AM from where you can't find me , Relationship Status: Drowning in your pond, hoping you'll notice me
Stick of the Fallen
On Monster.Western Animation, index code needs to be added around the links to works which have their own page.
"Oh great! Let's pile up all the useless cats and hope a tree falls on them!"
2998 lu12726th Jun 2012 09:52:42 AM from 空蝉丸
2999 Willbyr26th Jun 2012 10:10:37 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
[up][up][up] Done.
Hello from Honneamise
Just wondering: why was the page for Canadian voice actor Andrew Kavadas locked?
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