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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#101: Feb 5th 2010 at 5:46:08 PM

Oh hell yes. I want insta-shield back too. There was something immensely satisfying about smacking through a shielded bad guy's guard.

Matic Since: Feb, 2010
#102: Feb 6th 2010 at 5:36:13 AM

I'm not too worried about the homing attack. If it's anything like it was in Rush, it won't see much use outside of speed runs.

Insta-shield would be nice, and they'd have to include the bubble shield, at least. Wonder if we'll see any new shields?

MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from a place (Old Master) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#103: Feb 6th 2010 at 8:47:27 AM

I always thought a shield that protected against spikes would be a logical addition to the shield set.

I didn't write any of that.
newtonthenewt Since: Jul, 2009
#104: Feb 6th 2010 at 11:38:39 AM

No love for the fire shield?

^ That would be good, but have limited use, I think.

@Pykrete. What is that thing in your avatar?

She's playing with fire! He's not ready for Nibbly Pig!
Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator
#105: Feb 6th 2010 at 11:54:00 AM

I prefer the lightning shield. While the jump dash and fire defense has its perks, the controlled double jump coupled with the ring magnet beat it (nearly) every time.

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#106: Feb 6th 2010 at 12:11:53 PM

How about a shield that protects you from everything and never ever runs out

newtonthenewt Since: Jul, 2009
#107: Feb 6th 2010 at 12:12:03 PM

^^ I forgot lightning gave you double jump. Did it protect you from projectiles like fire did?

^ Debug mode.

edited 6th Feb '10 12:14:01 PM by newtonthenewt

She's playing with fire! He's not ready for Nibbly Pig!
Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator
#108: Feb 6th 2010 at 12:21:35 PM

^ Yep. Also, it could protect one from electrical attacks, making the Death Egg Zone a bit easier to go through.

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from a place (Old Master) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#109: Feb 6th 2010 at 4:43:01 PM

Those !#@% lightning bolts from those electrical platforms could still hurt you if you had a lightning shield. It made no sense.

Anyway, for most zones the lightning shield was my favorite for the reasons already mentioned, and the bubble shield was my least favorite.

I didn't write any of that.
newtonthenewt Since: Jul, 2009
#110: Feb 6th 2010 at 4:54:39 PM

Did anyone ever figure out how to use the insta-shield in Sonic 3? It didn't seem to do anything.

She's playing with fire! He's not ready for Nibbly Pig!
MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from a place (Old Master) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#111: Feb 6th 2010 at 5:04:00 PM

Remember the boss of Carnival Night Zone, Act 2? Where he can only be hit from above—any other part of the machine hurts you? And he only ducks low enough that you can hit him from above once every 30 seconds or so?

Turns out if you use the insta-shield, you can actually damage it anywhere, from any angle. And actually beat him in less than 2 minutes. I only discovered this fact last year.

edited 6th Feb '10 5:05:19 PM by MetaFour

I didn't write any of that.
Registered Radioactive green from under a space rock Since: Jun, 2009
Radioactive green
#112: Feb 6th 2010 at 5:07:38 PM

Uhm, yeah. It really did make Sonic invincible for a split-second, and extend his range a bit. I found it quite useful, actually.

Turns out if you use the insta-shield, you can actually damage it anywhere, from any angle. And actually beat him in less than 2 minutes. I only discovered this fact last year.

Aw, yeah, I remember that! It was useful for a ton of crap like that. I distinctly remember that you could use it to kill those fake spike enemies from a jump, for instance

edited 6th Feb '10 5:09:20 PM by Registered

itsmeyouidiot Stone Head of Confusion from Ra Murana Since: Jan, 2001
Stone Head of Confusion
#113: Feb 6th 2010 at 5:20:15 PM

IT'S GOING TO SUCK.

It would be a lot easier for me if you imagine there's something funny or interesting here.
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#114: Feb 6th 2010 at 7:40:08 PM

Insta-shield gave you a little bit of extra range for your damage, and it went through enemy guards if you timed it right. Enough to do things like hit the Lava Reef miniboss that was just out of jumping range, kill those spike things in Marble Garden from directly above instead of having to hit them from the side, or minimize how much time you were in the range of things like Metal Sonic's ball-shield thing by hitting it just a bit sooner. It was freaking great if you knew how to use it right.

It also made the miniboss in Electric Egg really easy since you could jump straight into the swirling balls from below and hit it before actually making contact.

And the thing in my avatar is from the Pokemon anime. I think the context is someone makes an offhanded comment about how training makes Pokemon really strong, and May has a pretty epic Imagine Spot about this applying to Torchic.

edited 6th Feb '10 7:43:40 PM by Pykrete

WildKnight Black Knight from the wasteland. Since: Jan, 2001
#115: Feb 7th 2010 at 10:57:15 AM

Okay, I watched those five seconds of gameplay over and over again (and while doing so, noticed I completely missed the E rating at the beginning of the trailer. Alrighty then.), and I'm still not noticing anything particularly degrading about the game except the running animation that's practically confirmed to not be final.

Which makes me think this will be one of those games that looks terrible in still screenshots, but at least passable and at the most awesome in motion.

The blind man walking off the cliff is not making a leap of faith.
asiacatdogblue This Won't End Well... from Chicago, IL Since: Feb, 2010
This Won't End Well...
#116: Feb 7th 2010 at 7:49:28 PM

So, did anyone even wanted the old design? I wouldn't care either way, but I kinda would like to see the old look again.

Yep, I'm still here.
AXavierB Since: Jan, 2001
#117: Feb 7th 2010 at 8:00:18 PM

I kinda prefer Sonic's current look.

Ronnie Respect the Red Right Hand from Surrounded by Idiots Since: Jan, 2001
Respect the Red Right Hand
#118: Feb 7th 2010 at 8:05:36 PM

^^ I did, but it's not a deal-breaker. The old design was just kinda definitive of me due to Sat AM, Sonic CD on Windows 95, and the Game Gear games shaping my perception of the character as a kid. As such, any game with the old design and/or Jaleel "Urkel" White and Jim Cummings as Sonic and Robotnik would be an instant buy.

edited 7th Feb '10 8:06:45 PM by Ronnie

Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator
#119: Feb 7th 2010 at 8:06:53 PM

^^ Ditto. I find the whole kerfluffle over the use of his current design for this game to be quite silly.

edited 7th Feb '10 8:07:09 PM by Komodin

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from a place (Old Master) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#120: Feb 7th 2010 at 9:48:10 PM

I prefer the old look, particularly the Sonic 3 & Knuckles sprites, but Sonic's new look isn't a deal-breaker for me.

I didn't write any of that.
WilliamWideWeb (weaving) Since: Jan, 2001
(weaving)
#121: Feb 7th 2010 at 9:58:53 PM

I can't tell the difference between them well enough to care.

SHIKI is dead.
newtonthenewt Since: Jul, 2009
#122: Feb 7th 2010 at 10:00:53 PM

The only sprite I'd want to see back is Sonic 3. Other than that, I like the new stuff better. Not that it really makes a difference, but there was something about the loopy legs that looked neat.

She's playing with fire! He's not ready for Nibbly Pig!
BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#123: Feb 8th 2010 at 12:06:37 AM

The new look is better for 3D games, while the old look is better for 2D games. I put up with Sonic Advance despite having the wrong look for 2D.

Electivirus A-HYUK! Since: Jan, 2001
A-HYUK!
#124: Feb 8th 2010 at 12:10:27 AM

Wrong look?

360 Gamertag: Electivirus. 3DS friend code: 5412-9983-8497. PSN ID: Electivirus. PM me if you add me on any.
AXavierB Since: Jan, 2001
#125: Feb 8th 2010 at 12:14:58 AM

I think Unleashed got it right; it was sort of a blend of the old and new looks. Sonic looks better with shorter quills, in my opinion, but I like the green eyes and less round shape.


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