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burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#2476: Apr 19th 2012 at 9:13:25 AM

In support of Goukenimaru's theory, I'll point out that there actually is leftover space in volume 20 for about two chapters.

qilin Escapist Since: Apr, 2012
Escapist
#2477: Apr 19th 2012 at 9:30:51 AM

The was an ending?

Where's Eiji, Fukuda, Hiramaru, Aoki, Hattori, and everyone else? Seriously, not even Takagi makes an appearance. Not to mention, the conclusion to the main romance also felt inconclusive.

Granted, I stopped liking the series after the plot began to stagnate, but seeing the supporting characters pushed to the side like this strikes me as somewhat sloppy. Tie up some loose ends at least.

I would love an adaptation of PCP though. *wishful thinking*

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#2478: Apr 19th 2012 at 9:36:17 AM

Where's Eiji, Fukuda, Hiramaru, Aoki, Hattori, and everyone else?

The entire significant supporting cast appeared for the previous two chapters. Including them here would have just bogged things down.

DOmen from Italy Since: Jul, 2010
#2479: Apr 19th 2012 at 9:43:38 AM

Yeah, I had been reasoning with an Italian blogger that I was expecting the manga to be over in three chapters. I guess they'll pull a Death Note in the volume release and include an extra chapter set a few years later.

qilin Escapist Since: Apr, 2012
Escapist
#2480: Apr 19th 2012 at 9:59:34 AM

The entire significant supporting cast appeared for the previous two chapters. Including them here would have just bogged things down.
Oh yes, I understand that much, but I don't think the previous two chapters offered any meaningful conclusion to each of the supporting characters. Of course, I understand that Mashiro's romance takes priority, but what about Takagi? Isn't he a main character too?

But anyway, I don't really mind much. I'm just glad that they finally ended the series since it was becoming stale real fast.

Android_Chaos The Trope Seeker from My house Since: Sep, 2009
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#2481: Apr 19th 2012 at 10:10:29 AM

Well, the ending was good enough, but I was expecting a mega chapter that could show a lot more emotion and let us see the wedding and all.

There could be an extra chapter. You never know.

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qilin Escapist Since: Apr, 2012
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#2482: Apr 19th 2012 at 10:18:13 AM

[up]It was rather forgettable, I think, which is not a characteristic of a good conclusion.

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#2483: Apr 19th 2012 at 11:12:54 AM

That ending was daft.

I expected about 50 pages, like what they did when Light regained his memories.

The next 'Where Are They Now' chapter better be a mega one. I refuse to believe this is the end.

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SKJAM Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#2484: May 1st 2012 at 8:29:58 PM

Way behind most of you—getting to scanlations that worked for me was getting difficult at best, so I've just been following the Shonen Jump Alpha release. Enjoyed the second to last chapter, which has enough closure on most of the supporting cast for me. Not sure I'm going to be as pleased with the last one.

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#2485: May 1st 2012 at 8:51:56 PM

You have to wonder what they'll do after they run out of Bakuman chapters.

SKJAM Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#2486: May 2nd 2012 at 4:39:53 AM

Aye, Viz still hasn't announced in the magazine itself. I suspect that for a couple weeks at least it will be sample chapters of their other shonen titles, but they may decide that running just five stories is okay now they've got our money :-(

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#2487: May 2nd 2012 at 4:49:16 AM

Perhaps they'll decide to test the waters with something like The World God Only Knows? Or maybe they'll try to push an episodic slow-seller they already have licensed like Case Closed or Hayate The Combat Butler...

Incidentally, there should probably be a Shonen Jump Alpha thread, for discussion of the stuff in the magazine at the chapter the magazine is showing them at, so people can actually discuss which being 3 chapters behind.

EDIT: Seems that the announcement will be made next week.

edited 2nd May '12 6:00:24 AM by burnpsy

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#2488: May 2nd 2012 at 8:48:07 AM

Hmm, good idea—if we have anyone else on TV Tropes who's a subscriber and not just reading scanlations. tongue

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2489: Jul 26th 2012 at 4:29:16 PM

So, I just started watching the anime of this. Was totally unimpressed. And then "You don't need to be so serious. It's not like this is the Death Note."

I cracked up laughing for like, five minutes after that.

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#2491: Nov 22nd 2013 at 7:43:51 PM

I had a question about the copycat crime of PCP and Takagi's reaction to it. Was that whole incident actually Ohba's reaction to copycat crimes of Deathnote? That was just my impression of things...

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SKJAM Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#2492: Nov 23rd 2013 at 6:57:57 AM

Could be, or just copycat crimes of manga in general. That is, after all, one of the big Moral Guardians issues with kids' entertainment.

edited 23rd Nov '13 6:58:49 AM by SKJAM

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#2493: Dec 29th 2015 at 11:56:10 AM

So, I've started to read this, I'm at the halfway point (volume 10). It's frankly a lot more funny than I expected, and I like pretty much all the characters (except Azuki, if you can call her a "character"…).

But dayum, all that text… It's not quite as obnoxious as in Death Note, but I couldn't help but chuckle when Ashirogi submitted their first nemu and Hattori told them to "reduce the amount of text". Ohba Tsugumi writing this of all people…

I also did not expect Kaya and Akito to marry this early. It's almost a pity actually to see Kaya playing housewife, because I really like her a lot…

Now I don't like the idea of making mangas not to express something but to "be the no.1" Especially when the manga you're trying to "beat" is of a completely different genre and aims at a different public… But well, I guess that's the Jump for you.

Still a fun read. I don't really see Ashirogi's "comically serious" manga be their smash hit though…

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#2494: Dec 29th 2015 at 12:00:29 PM

well that's because the story is itself a shounen manga, where To Be a Master is not really an uncommon goal for the main character(s). It's kind of meta that way, in that it represents their youthful and naive view of manga-making.

Funnily enough, a former Jump mangaka, Takehiko Inoue, went on to deconstruct this concept after he finished Slam Dunk with Vagabond, which posits that there are much more important things in life and that such a title is meaningless.

I wouldn't mind seeing another story like Bakuman, but, not in a shounen mangazine, and with more realistic characters and a different focus.

edited 29th Dec '15 12:03:25 PM by wehrmacht

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#2495: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:00:57 AM

Just finished volume 12, and I'm just bugged by one thing… if he finds his work too hard, why doesn't Hiramaru (the author of Rakko 11) hire some damn assistants? >.> I may have missed the passage where this is explained… Still, his "relationship" with his editor is hilarious and kinda sad at the same time. I hope he can at least have a non-miserable relationship with Aoki, though I don't see them going beyond Just Friends. =[

Yay, a Drama CD. The consolation prize for series who'll never have an anime. >.> Takagi decides to work on a new scenario overnight… yeah, I can't see that ending well.

One thing I like in this series is that we follow the authors over many years, which makes you kinda sad when their series end after it's been part of the story for so many volumes… I'd actually be curious to see some of them become real series. tongue

edited 2nd Jan '16 10:16:28 AM by Lyendith

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#2496: Jan 2nd 2016 at 6:46:36 PM

At least one of your concerns will be addressed.

Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#2497: Jan 3rd 2016 at 6:17:06 AM

[up][up][up] By the way, did you try RIN by Harold Sakuishi? surprised It's not exactly "realistic" but it does have a less nekketsu-ish approach than Bakuman.

[up] We'll see that. surprised

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#2498: Jan 3rd 2016 at 8:49:04 AM

no i've never heard of it. i'll look into it.

Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#2499: Jan 6th 2016 at 1:54:45 AM

Volume 14!

...Okay, Hiramaru has a relationship with Aoki, but I wouldn't really call it "non-miserable" yet. tongue Still, it's hard to believe Aoki's the same character as when she was introduced...

Nanamine is the kind of character who is introduced just so you can enjoy their spectacular failure, and it's pretty well done. tongue And the poor Nakai is becoming more pathetic with each appearance.

Also, popularity poll... with Azuki in 4th place, and Kaya only 12th... Japan, sometimes I don't get you... .-. I laughed at Hiramaru being 3rd though.

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Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#2500: Jan 12th 2016 at 12:04:47 PM

Finished! It was… a pretty normal ending? Kinda underwhelming, although I didn't dislike Azuki having a character for a couple of chapters.

I would have liked a "Where Are They Now?" Epilogue, to see what happened to Nakai or Nanamine… But considering Ohba's track record we could have gotten Azuki stopping her VA career after marrying and becoming a housewife alongside Kaya. So no.

I wonder what became of Yuritan and Kazutan, for that matter… It baffles me that he starts to say Yoshida is "like a father to him", even though Yoshida did little more than constantly trick him into continuing a job he hates.

It's also a pity that PCP was kind of pushed aside in the last volumes… and Reversi's ending looked kind of lame. >.>

…I sound overly negative, but still, it was a pretty fun series overall. I think I prefered it to Death Note in a way. Despite it's over-emphasis on competition and popularity numbers, it did raise some interesting reflections on the job and the characters were waaaaay more likeable than anyone in DN.

Only thing missing was an arc where Ashirogi has to deal with scanlators. tongue

(I love the Rakko 11 short by the way [lol] )

edited 12th Jan '16 2:02:55 PM by Lyendith

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