http://www.accstudios.com/index.htm

I saw an ad for this on I think it was on the CAD website. Anyway, when I clicked on the ad and saw the summary on the website I thought "Whoa, blatant political messages approaching!" and quickly exited the site.

Then today I got some strange urge to see how much has change for that comic. It seems like not much.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=50132

Warning: External forum thread is 24 pages long and is a dead thread with the last post being made a little less than 4 years ago with 2/3 of the posts being "left vs right" attacks.

From this site I got a glimpse what the author is like when under heavy scrutiny and can't seem to resist flaming back. I think it was one guy who compared that book to the Chick Tracts. I wouldn't be surprised, because I can't tell if this comic is dropping anvils on us or that it is try to cramming anvils down our throats. But I can strike a compromise by saying that it is cramming anvils into our heads through our asses.

It is also from the Newsarama forum thread that that I found out that it uses real life people as the characters. Hmm, sounds like Real Person Fic to me.

The publishers like to call themselves the publishers of the first conservative comic book. However, in the Newsarama thread I linked, some of the posters noted how the usual superhero comics contain conservative values that are often placed behind all the fighting and flying.

Now I am not going to put any deeper opinions because would just be complaining about comic books I've never read. Still if one is to make The Moral Substitute one has know the bias threshold to gain a successful audience. Mike Mackey went passed it. But I can't blame him if he sees overtones as an art style.

edited 13th Mar '09 5:44:09 PM by Worlder

Heh, yeah I heard about this one a few years ago. It sounded pretty damn insane. Like Sean Hannity became a superhero or something, WTF?

Someone needs to explain to me some day how pundits are important.

They're loud and annoying. People sometimes do what they say. Well, perhaps not, but the point is they're loud, and loud must mean important.

They're proof that politicians are becoming more irrelevant to the rest of the world every day. The more irrelevant the politicians become, the louder the pundits get. In the end, we'll all be deaf and able to get away with outright refusal to pay taxes.

I don't like taxes, but I'd rather pay them if that means I still get to enjoy music.

Let's just not pay attention to fucktards like this guy and Chick and all those fucking retarded pundits.

Throw 'em in a pit and burn 'em.

I say we create a page for this comic.

Also, I hope Obama's victory at the election has done something to piss off the author.

This comic makes Osama Bin Laden look grandfatherly. I don't think that's it's point...

But based on some of the previews, it's main idea seems to be portraying Liberterians as spineless and Osama as evil... Well, the latter is generally accepted to have some element of truth, and the former, well, how many times have the Conservatives been portrayed as corrupt/narrowminded?¨

I can't help but see this as just another viewpoint on the government, one that isn't as popular on the internet. Granted, I'm pro-internationalism and somewhat radical myself, so I don't agree with the author's views, but this is just comic with an ideological tilt. It's not like I don't read those allready.

Liberality For All

Knock yourselves out.

Ok I just created the page someone go fill it with tropes.

edited 19th Mar '09 4:26:07 PM by Worlder

Libarro World?

Sultry anti-feminist Hillary Clinton?

Oi and I was think of them feminists as the wild dancing flappers of the 1920s flaunting their stuff to break traditional women norms.

As a conservative, I find the very idea of Sean Hannity as a cyborg fighting a liberal government a Crowning Moment Of Awesome for the comics medium, with the only thing that'd make it cooler being if it was alongside an awesome iconic hero like Captain America, or Superman. The same way I feel liberals would if it were, say, Stephen Colbert and a conservative government.

edited 3rd Nov '09 8:06:04 PM by Ronnie

But why are some anvils more well received than others?

Oh yeah the character development.

Colbert is a comedian. He'd make a shitty warrior. Frankly I find the idea that you should just kill all of your opponents pretty worrying overall. Any series like you said would make conservatives out as childish automatically evil morons, and it would be pretty boring, not to mention unrealistic, because people aren't like that. I haven't read this comic but I see no reason to believe that it's anything else.

Seriously, when did we stop just talking with people that we disagree with?

edited 3rd Nov '09 8:25:16 PM by Tzetze

But where do heavy anvilious genius end and Chick Tracts begin?

When the internet was invented. Now we can just talk to the guys we agree with all the time.

Explain flame wars then. If people really just talked to people they agreed with they wouldn't have an incentive to stay around and scream with text.

Flame wars explained.

Part of me doesn't like seeing people argue over things like that...but then, part of me kind of wants to see them beat each other's asses Jerry Springer-style.

I'm torn, I tell you, I'm torn.

Talking with people that I agree with is really dull. I'd prefer to talk to people that I get an urge to strangle every few seconds, like most of my Republican friends.

I don't strangle them, I talk to them. It's more fun and more productive. Which is why I don't get this comic.

Something the Internet has helped me discover is that I don't actually have too many strong opinions of my own; instead I have a nigh-irresistable urge to, whenever I see someone espousing their point of view, point out every possible way that they are wrong, wrong, WRONG.

See, this is why I stopped watching The West Wing regularly. Why can't we have smart nice people on both 'sides' in fiction, without them actually technically being on our 'side'? I would pay good money for a comic with a socialist, a conservative, a liberal, a greenie, libertarians of various sorts, whatever, who all had a solid grasp of both formal logic and the theory behind their beliefs.

'Cause, seriously... that would be hot. Righteous speechifyin' with a basis in logic and fact from people of decency and sincerity? You'd better hide the liquor and the main characters; Furiko is on the prowl.

Besides, Colbert wouldn't storm the castle. He'd ninja in properly as an aide or a secret service agent. Much more in keeping with the tone of the show.

edited 6th Nov '09 11:20:58 PM by FurikoMaru

Because you either end up with one winner and a lot of pissed-off demographics, or you leave the issues unsettled and get flamed for not resolving things.

—R.J.

edited 6th Nov '09 11:22:41 PM by rjung

Not if the main conflict of the story is only peripherally related to politics.

I get a feeling that if this was truly promoting conservatism, they wouldn't make it a Real Person Fic.

This isn't glamorizing conservatism, this is glamorizing pundits.