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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#34426: Jul 9th 2014 at 9:22:49 PM

Put all the widgets in a little pit and turn it into like a funhouse ball pit kinda thing.

Oh really when?
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#34427: Jul 10th 2014 at 2:13:17 AM

Remember, just because it was issued to you does not make it yours. If you didn't buy it, you don't own it, so if you try and flog it you've just committed theft of government / crown property.

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batter from Singapore Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#34428: Jul 10th 2014 at 7:06:58 AM

[up]*3: Why use them for target practice of course.

It really isn't that important but some of the issued rain coat/jacket given was stolen during my time. Apparently it was a contractor (not just one, a whole platoon's [40+])

And yes, selling the gear I have is illegal. Not that anyone would want to wear it for anyway. (helmet of -5 intelligence [lol])

Flanker66 Dreams of Revenge from 30,000 feet and climbing Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
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#34429: Jul 10th 2014 at 8:00:49 AM

For example, in the first chapter, I have no idea how helicopter pilots talk and such.

Look up aviation terminology.

No, seriously, do it. Aviation has lingo and jargon that is peculiar to its sphere. You'll want to look in particular at military aviation terminology.

As for how they talk, keep in mind that they'll probably remain quiet most of the time unless it's directly relevant to the operation of the aircraft and/or its mission (so little to no chit chat). Be advised also that they will speak clearly and calmly when talking over the radio, and that they won't dawdle on the radio either (no long winded discussions, little to no "um"-ing or "ah"-ing, etc.).

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entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#34430: Jul 10th 2014 at 8:21:13 AM

For an hilarious example, watch the clip where James May (in what is essentially a big orange blimp) gets blown into Norwich International Airport's immediate airspace. [lol][lol][lol][lol]

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#34431: Jul 10th 2014 at 8:50:06 AM

Did someone mention my favorite show? The fun starts at around 3:20

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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#34432: Jul 10th 2014 at 1:39:38 PM

Teufel Hunden IV: There were a few stories about military gear "walking off" and being found in the hands of would be smugglers in the past few years along. But no one seemed to grasp just how serious that really was. We are not talking a few bits and pieces. One ring in Pendelton had people from Army, Navy, and Marines involved were selling body armor, strike plates, NVG's, gas masks, helmets, weapons, magazines, ammo, etc to Gangs, foreign nationals including Chinese, and even to the Cartels across the border. Some of the stuff was sold on E-Bay. There was another big ring out of Lejune. Then in Texas a bunch of soldiers got caught. There were a few other multi-branch rings selling US military kit in that manner as well. Usually if you are waiting on parts that long you messed up the paperwork. The rest of it is just bad and is the reason armorers can rapidly find themselves in a jail cell.

Gah, all of that's not at all a catastrophic security failure compared to what happened during the Great Politics Mess Up to the Russians With Rusting Rockets; IIRC, some serious stashes of gear and hardware, including several thousand small arms, "dissapeared" throughout the early 90's.

What irks me then regarding the details of your post are that almost all of the materials you described at commonly purchased by civilians in the military surplus market. So if selling those things are illegal, then how to hell do those huge surplus stores stocked up in such gear (obviously barring NVG's) stay alive? surprised

TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#34433: Jul 10th 2014 at 2:12:35 PM

[up]When something is "surplus" it's not longer needed and it's disposed of via official channels. Some sho[s got lucky when gear was sold off from units that were deactivated or National Guard/Reserve units that changed mission and no longer needed gear. Some shady folk did find supply NCO's and soldiers willing to steal, but between CID, FBI and the local law enforcement most end up in jail. A lot of soldiers do buy extra gear and then sell it to surplus stores. Sometimes bases will just have a ton of extra crap that needs to go away: from units closing to extra gear left over. If no one wants it, it's offered for sale to get some money back. Those auctions are where most reputable stores get their surplus.

In other news:

Iron Dome racks up 90% success rate so far

The Iron Dome missile defense system has achieved a nearly 90 percent success rate since Monday night, an improvement over its performance during Operation Pillar of Defense in November 2012.

The defense system is activated only when the rockets fired by Palestinian militants at Israel appear likely to hit populated areas.

edited 10th Jul '14 2:16:52 PM by TairaMai

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#34434: Jul 10th 2014 at 2:27:21 PM

[up][up] I'm quite sure the Americans picked up some of that ex-Soviet kit.

edited 10th Jul '14 2:27:56 PM by Greenmantle

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#34435: Jul 10th 2014 at 2:30:46 PM

Hooray, poorly maintained T-72s for everyone!

Oh really when?
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#34436: Jul 10th 2014 at 2:39:54 PM

There were better examples, like the T-80:

United Kingdom

In 1992, the United Kingdom bought a number of T-80U MBTs for defence research and development. They were not bought officially but through a specially created trading company which was supposed to deliver them to Morocco. The price of five million USD offered for each tank ensured a lack of suspicion on the part of the Russians. Britain evaluated the tanks on their proving grounds and transferred one to the US where the Americans evaluated it on the Aberdeen Proving Ground. While evaluating the vehicle, the US and UK are alleged to have noted any weak spots and flaws of the T-80U. In January 1994, British Minister of State for Defence Procurement Jonathan Aitken (answering a Question to the Secretary of State for Defence) confirmed in parliamentary debates that a Russian T-80U tank was imported for "defence research and development purposes".

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#34437: Jul 10th 2014 at 2:48:11 PM

Is that actually useful though? I thought the Russians had phased the T-80 out and replaced it with scary new T-90 models.

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#34439: Jul 10th 2014 at 2:55:54 PM

Barring some revolution in tank design, studying older equipment can still tell us quite a bit about design and construction practices, give us clues about what sort of equipment may have been installed previously, etc. Buying finding or stealing enemy equipment for research is a time-honored American military tradition.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#34440: Jul 10th 2014 at 2:56:51 PM

Yeah but if I remember right the T-80 wasn't related to the T-72.

And the T-90 is just a super T-72. Sort of

Oh really when?
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#34441: Jul 10th 2014 at 2:57:53 PM

@ Garcon: Look at the date they were purchased — 1992.

edited 10th Jul '14 2:58:06 PM by Greenmantle

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#34442: Jul 10th 2014 at 3:05:16 PM

More about the mighty Maus! Looks like Wargaming and Kubinka will have their work cut out for them when it comes to restoring this beast - if they ever do. I can highly recommend this video. Very interesting stuff:

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A procrastination in of itself
#34443: Jul 10th 2014 at 3:47:25 PM

Wouldn't the purchased tanks have been export models though? And thus not up to the same standard as the stuff the Russians kept for themselves?

edited 10th Jul '14 3:47:50 PM by Silasw

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#34444: Jul 10th 2014 at 3:51:28 PM

Probably, but then again, unless they bothered to design an entirely separate tank to sell under the same brand name, even the "Monkey Model" will have substantial design similarities to the real deal.

lazarus238 Since: Nov, 2010
#34445: Jul 10th 2014 at 4:11:18 PM

Usually most Soviet export tanks had thinner armor due to the resin-embedded ceramics being replaced with steel. They also lacked the laser rangefinders and NBC protection, and came with a less effective fire control system and ammo. Most of the parts were not interchangeable between the Russian and the export versions.

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#34446: Jul 10th 2014 at 4:16:25 PM

The export models also had different turrets with different protective filler then main line Russian tanks did.

Taira already pointed it out in general but surplus gear also tends to be dated and just that actual surplus. It also is usually gone over to make sure no secret bits make it out the door. These guys were stealing gear directly from military store houses, armories, and ammo dumps. All of those are generally considered secure sites and at least two of those require someone to have a decent record to work in.

Stealing of military weapons and ammo alone is a huge deal. Turning around and selling to anyone without care is even worse. Especially when they start selling to local gangs who now have easier access to fire power most civilians wouldn't have including full auto and burst fire weaponry. Even worse when they sell it to the cartels.

edited 10th Jul '14 4:17:19 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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#34447: Jul 10th 2014 at 4:23:20 PM

In case anyone doesn't know, US military members can now get the TSA Pre-Check screening process when traveling, because it turns out that members of the US Armed Forces are generally considered to be a low terrorism risk for airliners.

Anyways, it used to be if you showed your mil ID, they'd put you into the pre-screening line, but now they're not supposed to do that. When you book your travel, you submit your Do D ID number (the new 10 digit number they started putting on ID cards a few years ago, not your Social Security Number), and your boarding pass will have a little thingy on it telling the TSA guys to put the rubber gloves away.

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#34448: Jul 10th 2014 at 5:03:17 PM

members of the US Armed Forces are generally considered to be a low terrorism risk for airliners.
That's a surprise; all the people I know with the most animosity towards the Armed Forces are in it. tongue

A look back at chemical warfare, and how much we've improved on it since then.

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#34449: Jul 10th 2014 at 5:14:02 PM

Animosity towards the armed forces, not towards airlines. At least on an airliner I get free peanuts. [lol]

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#34450: Jul 10th 2014 at 5:30:45 PM

[up] True, on a military aircraft, they're a FOD hazard.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

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