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#4851: Oct 16th 2013 at 9:17:25 AM

technicaly speaking,he spent 7 years with Gohan in the Hyberbolic time chamber.

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#4852: Oct 16th 2013 at 9:20:18 AM

Wasn't that one? Or did they spend a week in there?

Or far more likely, am I misremembering due to not having watched it in years?

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#4853: Oct 16th 2013 at 9:29:01 AM

I think he spent two years with Gohan.

And, more importantly, he wasn't really "working out" after the fight with Vegeta, as much as he was recuperating from crippling injuries, then flying off into space to save his son from certain death.

And even if he did spend a lot of time training Uub, what could possibly stop him from teleporting back home in less than a tenth of a second? Instant Transmission makes commuting very easy.

And wasn't there like a seven year period between defeating Buu and the end of the series?

edited 16th Oct '13 9:29:56 AM by SonOfSharknado

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#4854: Oct 16th 2013 at 9:37:04 AM

Five years, and it does indicate that he did spend those five years with his family.

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#4855: Oct 16th 2013 at 9:37:13 AM

The point after Vegeta remains the same.

I don't actually know how long after Buu Uub happened. It'd have to be some years, though, for Gohan and Videl to date. In any case, in the 12 years between Frieza and Buu, he spent a couple days with his wife. Women have needs. Chichi needed someone to pound her tuna, and can't be Gohan all the time. Maybe Krillin helped his old friend out.

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But all jokes aside, the general basis for him being a "bad family man" is that he'd leave his family for years at the drop of a hat fist or dumbbell, but he'd come back when he felt he was done.

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#4857: Oct 16th 2013 at 1:52:34 PM

Huh. Goku was pretty much going flat-out from Raditz to Cell, wasn't he? Well, okay, he occasionally had time to relax, when the newest threat was a looming sword of Damocles rather than a countdown to explosions that had already reached single digits.

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#4858: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:13:56 PM

He was going flat out from Raditz to Frieza. He had a couple years in between Frieza and the androids that he could've used to relax, but didn't.

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#4859: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:17:12 PM

I don't think he abandoned the family completely while training Uub. I mean, he was alive and on Earth for starters. And since most of his family can fly and sense energy, it isn't exactly like he can hide especially well from them. And he probably would have dropped by the house once in a while, if only because Chi Chi makes food the way he likes it.

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#4860: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:26:21 PM

Like I said, the guy has the unique power to be anywhere on Earth at given time. I don't think it's so unlikely for him to train Uub for a day, take a break for maybe twenty minutes, and go see Chi-Chi. It would take him less than a second.

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#4861: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:37:41 PM

Even when training for the androids he was at home with his family, so I wouldn't count that time against him.

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#4862: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:39:25 PM

Oh, alright then.

The seven years thing still bugs me. I mean, I can understand not liking Goten, but that's ridiculous!

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#4863: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:41:01 PM

Wasn't he dead and unable to be wished back for most that time? Hell, he only came back from that one because of Old Supreme Kai.

I mean, I guess they could have gone back to Namek. But narratively speaking that just would have gotten Krillin killed again.

edited 16th Oct '13 2:41:36 PM by unnoun

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#4864: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:44:00 PM

....Huh why would Krillin die?

Here the thing Goku spent more time away from his family then with them before the defeat of Buu.

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#4865: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:44:24 PM

That years between Cell and Buu was more an issue of not communicating with them although he had the opportunity to, not him physically being there (since he couldn't). So you could count that time against him, though I think it's a bit more complicated than it seems.

edited 16th Oct '13 2:45:02 PM by stingerbrg

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#4866: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:46:32 PM

[up][up] Because going to Namek again means Toriyama would have to start a new story arc. Which means there would be more people looking for Dragon Balls. And Krillin'd be screwed like with Freeza.

That, or our heroes have pretty shitty luck. Going to Namek to bring back Goku would have screwed somebody over.

[up] I think communicating constantly with the living is frowned upon. Usually they're supposed to call first. Through a medium.

If anything, it's Chi Chi's fault for not wanting to go to Baba.

edited 16th Oct '13 2:47:46 PM by unnoun

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#4867: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:50:03 PM

Could also blame King Kai for not wanting to be used as a telephone.

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#4868: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:53:05 PM

Yeah. Then there's timezones. Maybe they don't want to have Goku calling at all hours.

And King Kai and/or Fortuneteller Baba would have made phonesex really awkward. tongue

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#4869: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:53:07 PM

They didn't need to go themselves because King Kai was there. He could of contacted Namek and they could of gather the dragonballs and wish Goku back.

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#4870: Oct 16th 2013 at 2:58:32 PM

But that would require intelligence on anyone's part. And also, I think King Kai would have blown a few wishes on his own life and his planet before that.

...Then there's the fact that I'm not sure the Namekians would have? I mean, the point of the Dragon Balls is the act of gathering them. And only the worthy can do it blah blah blah. It's supposed to be this enlightenment thing. Sacred artifacts of the Namekian people. Except Bulma ruined that with her damned radar but whatever.

I think Goku getting himself killed failing to stop a clone android bug thing on his own damned planet is kinda somebody else's problem territory.

edited 16th Oct '13 3:00:02 PM by unnoun

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#4871: Oct 16th 2013 at 3:01:06 PM

Nemakians consider Goku a hero for stopping Frezia. Just seem weird for them to say no.

edited 16th Oct '13 3:01:23 PM by theweirdKiddokun

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#4872: Oct 16th 2013 at 3:01:18 PM

The Namek balls wouldn't work anyway. Goku said not to wish him back*

, and the dragons can't bring him to life without his consent.

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#4873: Oct 16th 2013 at 3:05:17 PM

[up][up] Yes he's a hero, but they also can't bring him back every single time he gets himself killed. They already brought back his stupid friends, and let him borrow Dende. They can't keep going back to Namek for every single goddamned problem.

I mean, hell, Uub's village kinda demonstrates the sheer level of callousness on the part of our "heroes" doesn't it? A village full of starving, dehydrated people, and Goku and company have a CEO as longest serving female member, and there's a magical dragon around to solve all their goddamned problems.

I mean, this is like a whole new level of privilege here.

Bulma and her goddamned radar could have solved world hunger or created world peace a few thousand times over. Apparently getting a boyfriend was more important. Thanks top 1%.

edited 16th Oct '13 3:07:33 PM by unnoun

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#4874: Oct 16th 2013 at 3:07:44 PM

I was reading the Fridge Horror and Nightmare Fuel sections for DBZ the other day, and it gave me another reason why Goku didn't want to come back to Earth even though he'd survived Namek. Not just because he was learning his fancy new teleportation technique, but also because he was trying to control his new Super Saiyan Power. He didn't know how it worked,all he knew was that he got really angry, got insanely strong, and then everything died. That's why he told Gohan to run, because he couldn't trust himself not to kill his own son in his psychotic rage. He wanted full control over the power so that no one he loved would be at risk.

He was probably planning on coming back to Earth anyway, Frieza just happened to be there. And, if Trunks' timeline is to be believed, after defeating Frieza and King Cold, Goku just spent time with his family....then died of the Heart Virus.

[up]Not even magic can create permanent world peace, unless she wished for Shenron to permanently alter everyone's brains forever so that no one would ever get mad at anyone else. Which would be.....creepy.... o.O

edited 16th Oct '13 3:09:10 PM by SonOfSharknado

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#4875: Oct 16th 2013 at 3:08:31 PM

[up][up]Maybe that's why people were so reluctant to lend to that final Spirit Bomb...

edited 16th Oct '13 3:09:03 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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