Follow TV Tropes

Following

Questions on Sex Hormones

Go To

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1: May 8th 2010 at 12:16:28 AM

First question (and only one in mind as of now): If, for some reason, a man or woman had high natural levels of both testosterone and estradiol during puberty - that is, the man's body is producing as much estradiol as a woman, while producing as much testosterone as is normal for most men, and vice versa for the woman - then what would be the end result?

EDIT: Ninja'd to rephrase question.

EDIT#2: Ninja'd to fix confusion of estrogen and estradiol.

EDIT#3: Okay, ninja'ing to rephrase question for the second time...

What would happen if, due to some genetic mutation(s) or other medical condition(s), a boy/girl's body produces throughout their puberty as much female/male sex steroid hormones as a normal average member of the opposite sex would, while maintaining a normal production level of their "correct" sex steroid hormones?

edited 9th Apr '11 12:17:15 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#2: May 8th 2010 at 8:05:13 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if the result was 'liver failure'.

edited 8th May '10 8:05:21 AM by Miijhal

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#3: May 8th 2010 at 8:49:34 AM

Question has been rephrased in light of your post. Thanks.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#4: May 8th 2010 at 10:19:38 AM

I seem to recall something about one over riding the other. And something about estrogen making men more aggressive.

Fight smart, not fair.
FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#5: May 8th 2010 at 1:37:34 PM

This would normally be self-correcting by an accompanying high level of progesterone production. If that failed to occur, estrogen dominance may occur.

Maybe you are just looking for a way to examine what a person with both male and female secondary traits turned up to eleven would look like. A female body-builder with breast implants might have the look.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#6: May 8th 2010 at 2:28:35 PM

Statement still stands. I have a feeling that would interfere with homeostasis and thus the liver would be working on overdrive to try and reduce the hormone levels in the body by converting into something more productive. That would stress the liver until it finally called it quits.

Regardless, I doubt someone with a condition like that could survive very long.

edited 8th May '10 2:30:34 PM by Miijhal

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#7: May 8th 2010 at 2:45:36 PM

Ack! I just discovered by sheer coincidence that what I really want is the ovary-produced estradiol, not estrogen (which is actually a group of hormones, not one. My bad.) >_< Fixing NOW!

Can a mod please change the title to reflect this?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#8: May 8th 2010 at 3:37:11 PM

Edit: Nevermind.

edited 8th May '10 3:40:04 PM by Miijhal

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#9: May 8th 2010 at 3:38:28 PM

Um, androgen is also a group of hormones. Or are suggesting that I should make it "androgen + estrogen", since they encompass testosterone and estradiol respectively?

edited 8th May '10 3:39:29 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#10: May 8th 2010 at 3:40:27 PM

Caught that before you responded.

I'm half asleep right now.

edited 8th May '10 3:40:45 PM by Miijhal

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#11: May 8th 2010 at 4:12:08 PM

No problem. In any case, the second part of my post still stands.

edited 8th May '10 4:13:13 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Ettina Since: Apr, 2009
#12: May 10th 2010 at 3:47:42 PM

According to this link about men, estradiol tends to reduce the effect of testosterone. Also, testosterone can be converted to estradiol. And it's darn hard to find anything about what someone high in both would be like, because chances are if you're high in one, you're low in the other.

If I'm asking for advice on a story idea, don't tell me it can't be done.
LeighSabio Mate Griffon To Mare from Love party! Since: Jan, 2001
Mate Griffon To Mare
#13: May 18th 2010 at 3:01:30 PM

If that failed to occur, estrogen dominance may occur.
estrogen dominance

I Thought It Meant something having to do with a dominatrix.

"All pain is a punishment, and every punishment is inflicted for love as much as for justice." — Joseph De Maistre.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#14: Nov 20th 2010 at 11:34:22 AM

Old topic, but I feel a need to rephrase my original question, just in case there's a chance I can get a new answer.

What would happen if, due to some genetic mutation(s) or other medical condition(s), a boy/girl's body produces throughout their puberty as much female/male sex steroid hormones as a normal average member of the opposite sex would, while maintaining a normal production level of their "correct" sex steroid hormones?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Signed Always Right Since: Dec, 2009
Always Right
#16: Apr 9th 2011 at 12:27:41 PM

My memory is hazy...but estrogen is responsible for male behaviours, and in development, it's responsible for masculinization. But females are females only because of the presence of AFP protecting them from their estrogen.

But not too sure about what they do in puberty. Testosterone is responsible for development of male characteristics such as deepening voice, facial hair, etc.

While estrodial promotes breast and uterus development.

So...wild mass guesssomeone with equal levels of both(unlikely to happen, ever) will be a man with boobs?wild mass guess


This question woulda been easier if you hadn't mentioned puberty...

PS-what was the person's gender to begin with? That would be an important factor.

edited 9th Apr '11 12:29:30 PM by Signed

"Every opinion that isn't mine is subjected to Your Mileage May Vary."
del_diablo Den harde nordmann from Somewher in mid Norway Since: Sep, 2009
Den harde nordmann
#17: Apr 9th 2011 at 12:27:48 PM

I think the end gender would likely be "female" since it is the default. Beyond that, I guess I too am quite interistied in an more elaborated answer.

A guy called dvorak is tired. Tired of humanity not wanting to change to improve itself. Quite the sad tale.
Add Post

Total posts: 17
Top