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Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#33701: Oct 6th 2012 at 8:26:35 AM

^^Controlling the power applies only to unreleased swords. Ichigo's unreleased was huge but weak because he didn't focus it properly. Isshin's unreleased was focused, small and strong. Ichi's Shikai is a giant meat cleaver, but it isn't weak like a big unreleased sword.

edited 6th Oct '12 8:27:35 AM by Adannor

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#33702: Oct 6th 2012 at 8:42:38 AM

Do we ever have a case where a Zanpakuto's Shikai form is indistinguishable from its sealed form? I think Kyouka Suigetsu and Ryuujinjakka don't change form upon releasing (aside from the latter becoming engulfed in flames, that is).

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byakugan0889 recapper and blogger from Zquad HQ Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
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#33703: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:14:52 AM

Tenken and Suzumushi don't change as well.

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1000 chords and the truth
#33704: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:24:58 AM

kennys looks pretty normal too, aside from looking abused.

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#33705: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:39:04 AM

It has a unique guard as well.

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Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#33706: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:41:12 AM

People have unique guards and handles in unreleased forms as well.

edited 6th Oct '12 9:41:20 AM by Adannor

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#33707: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:51:35 AM

Actually, I was wondering, whose bankai is exactly the same in sword appearance and outfit as their shikai?

Bankai is such a hilarious word.

BONK-AI!

edited 6th Oct '12 9:52:53 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#33708: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:53:36 AM

Mmm. Well Suzumushi keeps it's unreleased form in addition to the Bankai dome of darkness. Senbonzakura's bankai has a form in which it's a whole damn load of it's unreleased forms.

edited 6th Oct '12 9:54:17 AM by Adannor

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#33709: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:57:07 AM

Daiguren Hyourinmaru itself (i.e. excluding the ice wings and claws on Toshiro's body) is basically the same as its shikai, IIRC.

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Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#33710: Oct 6th 2012 at 10:07:46 AM

I think it doesn't change shape from unreleased either. *checks* o wait, no, it gets some accessories added. Annd the guard changes for Bankai.

edited 6th Oct '12 10:10:25 AM by Adannor

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
byakugan0889 recapper and blogger from Zquad HQ Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
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#33712: Oct 6th 2012 at 11:13:19 AM

Tenken and Suzumushi. Shinso/Hyorinmaru kinda count.

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CaptainKatsura Decoy from    Poland    Since: Jul, 2011
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#33713: Oct 6th 2012 at 11:18:26 AM

Tenken is actually a Stand. I mean, it follows basic rules of Stands. Mimics the user's movements, the damage dealt to it is dealt to the user as well, and is invisible to people without spiritual powers (Post 2nd arc JJBA can be matched up realistically against Bleach since Stand users see ghosts too, though there was only one instance when said ability was a plot point).

And it handwaves why Komamura has human intelligence. Every non-human Stand user in JJBA gains human intelligence after gaining powers, even if it is a colony of glones.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#33714: Oct 6th 2012 at 11:22:25 AM

To clarify, the non-human stand users include:

  • A dog (and a main character, at that)
  • A (dog-hating) hawk
  • An orangutan
  • a pile of ameba (I think)

Though, movement mimicry isn't necessary or common to all stands.

edited 6th Oct '12 11:24:24 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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#33715: Oct 6th 2012 at 11:28:23 AM

[up][up] The slight problem with that is the fact that Komamura himself is also invisible to people without spiritual powers.

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CaptainKatsura Decoy from    Poland    Since: Jul, 2011
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#33716: Oct 6th 2012 at 11:35:22 AM

[up]There was a ghost Stand user, so still possible.

[up][up]In translation I read said ameba colony was mentioned by me colony of glones. Close enough, so I don't which is actually canon.

But quite common at the beginning. It was later in the story when Hirohiko experimented with more varied powers.

edited 6th Oct '12 11:36:35 AM by CaptainKatsura

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theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
What a Wonderful World!
#33717: Oct 6th 2012 at 11:54:20 AM

It was algae.

Foo Fighter was cool....for a weird chick.

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CaptainKatsura Decoy from    Poland    Since: Jul, 2011
Decoy
#33718: Oct 6th 2012 at 11:57:17 AM

It seems I called algaes glones since it is how they are called in my language XD

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theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#33719: Oct 6th 2012 at 12:02:21 PM

....Who said that was for you?

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CaptainKatsura Decoy from    Poland    Since: Jul, 2011
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#33720: Oct 6th 2012 at 12:10:23 PM

I know. But your post prompted to check up things and realize my slip XD

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shadowblack Since: Jun, 2010
#33721: Oct 6th 2012 at 1:31:20 PM

...I have no idea what you guys are talking about...

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#33722: Oct 6th 2012 at 1:38:43 PM

Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure.

One of those old shonen that people who got into them early probably read and consider to be a defining work in the genre.

Also, really annoying art style.

edited 6th Oct '12 1:39:04 PM by OhnoaBear

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Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
CaptainKatsura Decoy from    Poland    Since: Jul, 2011
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#33724: Oct 6th 2012 at 1:47:40 PM

[up]Dinosaur riding a dinosaur! Or Nazi killing vampire squirrel.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#33725: Oct 6th 2012 at 1:48:19 PM

I watched the part 3 OVA like 3 years ago, and read a couple fights in the manga. And yeah, it's pretty awesome.

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edited 6th Oct '12 1:48:48 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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