Regarding the Trivia namespace (crowner switched 20th Jan 2020)

Added Short-Lived, Big Impact to the crowner.

I'm adding Based on a Dream to the crowner; it's really something that can only be known appart from the work.

Yeah, I agree with that one.

calling Based on a Dream, Fountain of Expies, Invisible Advertising, Marathon Running, Missing Episode, Newbie Boom and Sending Stuff to Save the Show and removing Americans Hate Tingle, Breakaway Pop Hit, Follow-Up Failure, Germans Love David Hasselhoof and Similarly Named Works. By the way, i guess this crowner is sufficiently old to be switched.

edited 5th May '12 2:14:03 PM by MagBas

I think the crowner is old enough that we really don't need a crowner anymore. It's not really doing anything we couldn't do more easily just by discussing.

Adding The CSI Effect to the crowner - it's marked as YMMV despite one TRS thread disagreeing with it, and it doesn't appear inside a work and is too tangential to storytelling even for an Audience Reaction.

Calling Black Sheep Hit and The Character Died with Him

^^^

Might be a good idea, there are a few decisions I find rather questionable and I'd like to at least voice some concerns about them.

Also,I added Viral Marketing a few days back and added Fandom Nod today.

edited 14th May '12 1:06:10 PM by eX

I wonder if Shipping Goggles and Anti Shipping Goggles should be trivia. Thoughts?

These are clear cut emotional Audience Reactions. So, no.

I agree with The CSI Effect, I think. It feels right.

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edited 19th May '12 2:43:34 PM by MagBas

Calling Similarly Named Works and Streisand Effect.

I added Shown Their Work, Accidentally Accurate, and Dan Browned.

Shown Their Work is a trope, not trivia.

How is it any different from other accuracy 'tropes', though?

Cuz Shown Their Work isn't just "Author did research", it's "Author goes on tangents in the story to show off all the research they did".

...Then it's pretty widely misused.

It's sort of similar to a Shout-Out.

I may be oversimplifying a little. But the main requirement for Shown Their Work is that the research is obvious in the work itself, and that pretty much means it can't be trivia (as the note on the crowner aptly points out). It's a trope.

And I'm not seeing a lot of misuse skimming the examples section.

edited 26th May '12 12:02:09 AM by troacctid

Misuse goes to the Trope Repair Shop anyway.

The normal usage around the wiki seems to be potholes to things like 'scientifically accurate' and such - not to anything indicating that the author has to go out of their way to show their work. So if that really is a requirement, then it's pretty commonly misused in my experience.

And yes, I'm aware this is a TRS issue - I'm just bringing it up here to explain why I had assumed it was no different from most accuracy 'tropes'.

edited 26th May '12 2:20:47 AM by nrjxll

Calling Breakaway Pop Hit, Internet Counterattack, Germans Love David Hasselhoff, Too Soon, The CSI Effect, Americans Hate Tingle, Follow-Up Failure, Short-Lived, Big Impact, Viral Marketing, Fandom Nod, and Magnum Opus Dissonance.

The difference is that with Shown Their Work it's evident in the work itself. I'd even argue that it actually doesn't even need to be accurate at all—it could turn out to be wrong and still count as Shown Their Work.

I'm of two minds about Follow the Leader. It seems to be external to the work, and thus trivia. Though it's mostly a supertrope. Any way, adding it to the crowner, let's see what say the votes.

edited 31st May '12 3:11:56 AM by StFan