i'm not sure. Shout Outs
are pretty much what trivia pages in, say, imdb are filled with. i was thinking about it a while ago and came to some conclusions... let's see:
- dictionary.com - matters or things that are very unimportant, inconsequential, or nonessential; trifles; trivialities.
- world english dictionary - petty details or considerations; trifles; trivialities.
by those definitions, pretty much all
of the tropes mentioned in this thread would fall under trivia. but in the context of tvtropes, defining a trope as a "convention," i'm more inclined to wonder which of these actually have authorial intent behind them. i agree that a Shout-Out
directly affects the audience, as the audience is the one that recognizes
. but does the fact that the audience recognizes it mean that the author was using it specifically for that purpose?
, for example, is something authors/creators intentionally
put in the work to attract the audience's attention to it. Shout Outs
however, at least as far as my understanding of the trope goes, are generally put in because the author
gets a feeling of satisfaction out of it (he's a fan of whatever he's referencing, he wants to honor a work he respects, he wants to do something special for someone in his crew or family, etc)
. while he/she is
adding the Shout-Out
on purpose, he's not doing it specifically to attract the attention of other fans of show X to his work. so is he using it as a device to further develop the work itself? not really.
now, if the Shout-Out does
indeed tell us something about the story... then it's probably not really a Shout-Out
. for example: Word of God
said trowa barton
's last name is a Shout-Out
to Tim Burton
, whom the creator happens to be a big fan of. trowa was Named After Somebody Famous
, basically. fans of tim burton will appreciate the name (eh, barely. i never realized the Shout-Out until i read it here, tbh)
, but it doesn't mean the creator of Gundam Wing
was trying to attract tim burton fans to his work.
now, if trowa was anything
like tim burton, or if his plotlines ran parallel to any of tim burton's movies, that would be going way
past trivia— but it wouldn't be a Shout-Out
anymore, it would be a Meaningful Name
as such, i think Shout-Out
does belong in trivia. as does Actor Allusion
, Relationship Voice Actor
and such. tropes like Fanservice
, Celebrity Resemblance
, Mythology Gag
and similar, actually are
used by the creator to tell the audience something, relevant to the plot or not, and as such should stay on the main page.
anyway, i've ranted long enough. some other tropes for consideration:
and of course, if Shout-Out
gets moved to trivia, all its subtropes ought to be moved too, like Shout-Out Theme Naming