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Watchtower A Wannabe Writer from Beyond Thunderdome Since: Jul, 2010
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#251: Aug 26th 2010 at 6:08:54 PM

Wallace was freaking hysterical. He was basically a gay pimp, and my GOD was it glorious. I especially love when Wallace tries to tell him to break up with Knives; Scott's like "Dude! Double Standard!" and Wallace's like "Hey, I didn't write the gay book, okay?"

I actually had a moment of Fridge Brilliance, which I'm gonna put in spoilers for convenience: At first, Scott's changed behavior when he dies can be seen as him becoming mature. However, I also realized that Scott's acting exactly like how a gamer would on a second playthrough. Going through the Chaos Theater at double time is the same as a gamer knowing how to get through a level the fastest way possible. His changed dialouge is the same as a gamer making different choices to get the best ending. Scott cutting Gideon's Hannibal Lecture off is the same as a gamer skipping the pre-boss cutscene. Scott knowing where Knives is is the same as a gamer being fully aware of an ambush session. Finally, Scott smooth pass through his second "run" stops when Gideon pulls out his pixel katana, much like how a gamer would if he beat the Final Boss but wasn't expecting a True Final Boss. The fact that the Chaos Theater is labelled "Level 7" only makes it more genius.

edited 26th Aug '10 6:10:25 PM by Watchtower

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#252: Aug 26th 2010 at 6:16:53 PM

I saw it. I had a lot of fun.

So did my parents.

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Aleclom The Fastest Man Alive from Chicago Since: Mar, 2010
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#253: Aug 26th 2010 at 8:27:41 PM

Todd: "Tell it to the cleaning lady on Monday."
Scott: "What?"
Todd: "Because you'll be dust by Monday."
Scott: "...umm...?"
Todd: "Because you'll be pulverized in two seconds. And the cleaning lady? She cleans up. Dust. She dusts."
Scott: "Okay, but...why Monday?"
Todd: "Well, she has the weekends off, so...Monday, right?"
Envy: "Todd, what the hell are you talking about?"

Rawr!
tendollarlameo Remarkably Unremarkable Since: Aug, 2010
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#254: Aug 26th 2010 at 10:59:41 PM

While we're on the subject of Todd, "It's milk and eggs, bitch." is another excellent one.

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#255: Aug 26th 2010 at 11:03:52 PM

Heh. My favorite was the "You were a ve-gone...but now you will be gone!", which makes me chuckle every time on its own, but it's even better because Todd's reaction makes it seem like it's going to be a repeat of that exchange, but instead...

Anyway, it was a good movie. The relationship between Scott and Ramona wasn't that convincing—not that it had to be an epic love story or anything, in fact part of the fun is that the romance is rather low-key compared to the fighting, but it didn't seem like she liked him or like there was any reason for him to go after her. However, there were a lot of really ingenious things—the use of Smash Cuts was clever, the video game elements were a really interesting elaboration on the typical cinematic vocabulary, etc. Also, the side characters were all awesome (even if I really don't think we need another "pathetic losernerd with few to no redeeming values" male lead, I do love the twist that he's also an amazing fighter, and that there's no reason given—I was worried they would try to explain it, but leaving it unexplained is so much better IMO).

I'm trying to figure out how the movie relates to the Big-Lipped Alligator Moment trope—you'd think the fight scenes would be, but given that everything else is a video game too, they are not. I think.

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#256: Aug 27th 2010 at 4:33:58 AM

Yeah, the only explanation Scott's fighting skills ever got in the comic was a Hand Wave that "he's the best fighter in the province."

edited 27th Aug '10 4:35:18 AM by Shale

Watchtower A Wannabe Writer from Beyond Thunderdome Since: Jul, 2010
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#257: Aug 27th 2010 at 7:17:31 AM

^^Edgar Wright said that he purposefully made the fight scenes like song numbers in movies like Grease; comes outta nowhere, lasts for a couple of minutes, and is never spoken of again. So I guess they're intentional Big Lipped Alligator Moments?

edited 27th Aug '10 7:19:25 AM by Watchtower

WildKnight Black Knight from the wasteland. Since: Jan, 2001
#258: Aug 27th 2010 at 8:04:01 AM

Well, any good musical doesn't really have their songs qualify for BLAM, they're merely extensions of the plot in song. I guess Scott Pilgrim's fight scenes might be the same way, in that they're extensions of the plot...in fight scenes.

Also, not quite a favorite line, but I think the scene I consider the CMOA of the movie is actually the beginning of the Patel fight:

Patel: "My name is Matthew Patel! Consider our fight...begun!" *leap*

Scott: (slow-motion) What did I dooooo? What do I dooooo?

Wallace: FIIIIIIIGGGHHHHTTT!

Scott gets determined, throws his guitar away, and opens the can of kick-ass.

It was an awesome segue into the video game-esque world of the movieverse.

Also: "I was just a little bicurious!" "Well, honey, I'm a little BI-FURIOUS!!!"

edited 27th Aug '10 8:20:45 AM by WildKnight

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Cidolfas El Cid from Toronto Since: Jan, 2001
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#259: Aug 27th 2010 at 10:05:12 AM

@Watchtower: You're exactly right. In fact, the movie's version made much more sense than in the book. In the book, Scott's 1-Up takes effect immediately; he just keeps going from where he is. In the movie, he actually has to retry from his last save point, i.e. when he woke up in the morning. I guess the book was a beat-em-up while the movie was an RPG. 8-)

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#260: Aug 27th 2010 at 1:44:39 PM

An RPG or a platformer. That is, after all, how 1-ups work in the Mario and Sonic games, among others.

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#261: Aug 27th 2010 at 6:44:27 PM

"Who is this mystery child you date?" stands out to me.

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#262: Aug 27th 2010 at 8:29:00 PM

I got back seeing it for the 7th time(went to two more showings. I'm all tuckered out, I can't make it to 10. D=) and I also forgot how much I love "That gossipy bitch."

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#263: Aug 27th 2010 at 9:10:53 PM

"I have to pee on her."

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Watchtower A Wannabe Writer from Beyond Thunderdome Since: Jul, 2010
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#264: Aug 27th 2010 at 10:02:41 PM

"Wow. What a perfect asshole. Scott, forget what I said earlier. End him."

tendollarlameo Remarkably Unremarkable Since: Aug, 2010
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#265: Aug 27th 2010 at 10:48:39 PM

I love that line because most people don't get that Scott thought when Wallace said "What a perfect asshole", he was referring to Mystery Guy. On a side note, was that Mystery Guy supposed to be Mobile? You can see Mobile's phone number on the fridge, so...

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#266: Aug 28th 2010 at 3:07:46 AM

My favorite pair of lines:

"I'm in lesbians with you."

Then, a few minutes later:

"... I said lesbians."

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#267: Aug 28th 2010 at 6:13:29 AM

^ Yes. That just made the movie for me.

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#268: Aug 28th 2010 at 9:18:32 AM

@tendollarlameo

Don't see it again. You've seen it 7 times. Perfect Amount.

I can't get past 5.

tendollarlameo Remarkably Unremarkable Since: Aug, 2010
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#269: Aug 28th 2010 at 10:22:46 AM

Yeah I had to force myself to get through the last two. I wanted to make it an even 10, but then I realized how cool it was that I DID see it only 7 times. I can't wait till it comes out on Bluray so I can watch it all I want, whenever I want.

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#270: Aug 28th 2010 at 11:11:42 AM

I've heard people complain about the ending and the choice Scott ends up making. Personally, I think it was a good message. Let the past be. Let it die and let it go, even if you made mistakes.

Or am I the only one who thinks that?

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tendollarlameo Remarkably Unremarkable Since: Aug, 2010
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#271: Aug 28th 2010 at 11:31:44 AM

I think that's pretty much the moral of story. The main message to Scott Pilgrim is that in our lives, we make mistakes, and those mistakes might end up hurting others. But when we realize this, we can work on becoming a better person, and choose not to make those mistakes again.

GorramBats from Bat Country Since: Jan, 2010
#272: Aug 28th 2010 at 2:00:42 PM

Ooookay, so...that was good. That was damn good. I mean, Comeau's right, the comic is better but given the offbeat premise, and the fact that it told the whole story of 6 comics in about an hour and a half, it could have been an absolute trainwreck.

It kind of blew my mind that the Vegan Police got into the money. The fact that they just wander off and high-5 was damn hilarious.

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#273: Aug 28th 2010 at 2:23:01 PM

I second Wallace's snark.

This song is dedicated to the guy in the stands who is always shouting. It's called "We Hate You Please Die".

Cool, I love this song.

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Watchtower A Wannabe Writer from Beyond Thunderdome Since: Jul, 2010
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#274: Aug 28th 2010 at 2:25:57 PM

@Gorram: what made that bit even more hilarious for me was that I went to see it with my cousin and he saw that coming a mile away. He's like "Watch, they're gonna jump and hi-5 and shout YEAH!!!" and when they did do that he's like "Totally called it."

GorramBats from Bat Country Since: Jan, 2010
#275: Aug 28th 2010 at 2:32:38 PM

I will say this, I'm not feeling all the love for Movie!Wallace. He wasn't bad or anything, but he's got nothing on the original.

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