The Law Enforcement Officer Thread.:

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1651 Rationalinsanity12th Mar 2014 11:12:50 AM from Nova Scotia, Canada , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Especially when the quota is higher than the jurisdiction's total population. Is there any region in a non-failed state where you honestly estimate every single resident (give or take a few travelers in the mix) to commit at least one offense every year?

It is disturbing that only one officer/public employee raised the alarm though.
1652 tclittle12th Mar 2014 11:20:06 AM from Somewhere Down in Texas
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[up] Being a devil's advocate here, but having a quota higher than the cities population is somewhat justified with the fact the town is a college town (Auburn University) and would have a large temporary population; and is located on three major thoroughfares (I-85, US 29, and US 280).
1653 Achaemenid12th Mar 2014 12:00:21 PM from Blades , Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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The same reason the Vatican City has Europe's highest petty crime rate per capita [lol]
1654 TuefelHundenIV12th Mar 2014 12:24:40 PM from Wandering. , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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And the quotas included contacts not just ticketing but warnings, stops, interviews, and questioning when none was necessarily needed. Also it would not extend to just the towns population but anyone in it. Seeing as how its a college town it probably has fair amount of traffic through it on a daily basis. That was also pointed out in the article. I would say it is very likely true.
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1655 joeyjojo12th Mar 2014 02:09:48 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
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I'm for definitely for pushing the abolishment of the quota system.

Any way I'll got more pressing problems, I have this friend who's getting fingered unfairly for resisting arrest.

He is going to fight the charges and is pretty confident he can win, I just can't help thinking of The Bobby Fuller Four hit single however.

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1656 TobiasDrake12th Mar 2014 02:39:24 PM from Colorado, USA , Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
1657 TuefelHundenIV12th Mar 2014 04:34:36 PM from Wandering. , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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joey: Hope he has reliable evidence and witnesses as well as lawyer who is not afraid of the police.
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1658 JOEyJojO12th Mar 2014 06:32:38 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
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^^Don't want to say to much because I wasn't there obviously, but apparently he intervened in a fight between two guy and single man, and they turned out to be plaid clothed cops.

He does say he has video evidence and witnesses backing him up so that's good at least.
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1659 TuefelHundenIV12th Mar 2014 06:38:41 PM from Wandering. , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Joe: That is good to hear then. He has a good chance of beating it. Plain clothes have no outwardly visible sign of being cops. The only way I can think of him being in trouble is if he continued after the id themselves.
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1660 RadicalTaoist13th Mar 2014 02:36:24 AM from the #GUniverse
1661 Nohbody13th Mar 2014 07:39:34 AM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
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Barkey might not be too happy about this, but I am.

Settlement in Baltimore case results in explicit BPD policy that it's legal for bystanders to record the police going about their job.

While there are jackasses out there who abuse it in juvenile "stick it to The Man" antics, I don't think that the recording is inherently wrong in and of itself. I especially don't think that the police should be able to delete recordings without a court order authorizing it, as happened to the plaintiff in the lawsuit.
1662 Gabrael13th Mar 2014 11:15:16 AM from My musings , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
eh, i have mixed feelings about this.

On one hand, I would like to say that so long as they are not obstructing the officer's ability to do their job, it should be okay. But then i also want to protect the people they are filming.

For example, there are some situations where an officer might handcuff a person or even put them in the car or bring them in and they are not charging them at all. They may have to hold them then take them to another location to question them.

If some assclown is trying to catch the cops in a bad way, they are also going to be filming or photographing the person the cops are working with. And i don't want an innocent person or something like that to be ruined just like I don't want a honest cop to be screwed or a bad cop covered for.
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1663 AFP13th Mar 2014 03:41:41 PM from The Pale Blue Dot , Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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Police officers in Alabama shoot an Airman, evidently over some misunderstanding. Kid almost died as a result of his injuries due to blood loss.

To add insult to injury, it sounds like the Airman's truck (along with many of his personal belongings; he was in the processing of moving from one base to another) was impounded and than lost. I'm eagerly awaiting the explanation on what happened here.
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1664 RadicalTaoist14th Mar 2014 08:02:10 PM from the #GUniverse
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100 serial rapists identified after rape kits from Detroit Crime Lab are finally processed

Select commentary:
11,000 abandoned rape kits dating back to the 1980ís.
100 serial rapists identified in 1,600 finally tested.
They moved on to commit similar crimes in 23 other states.
An estimated 400,000 rape kits remain untested nationally.
Meanwhile half of the prison population in America is there for non-violent, drug-related offenses.

1665 TuefelHundenIV14th Mar 2014 08:42:51 PM from Wandering. , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Holy shit. That is pretty damn bad.

edited 14th Mar '14 8:43:16 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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1666 AFP14th Mar 2014 08:44:57 PM from The Pale Blue Dot , Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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1667 TobiasDrake15th Mar 2014 05:27:53 PM from Colorado, USA , Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
The analysis of rape kits costs between $500 and $1,500 to process. Those remaining 400,000 untested kits would cost an estimated $200,000,000 to $600,000,000 to analyze.

84,376 forcible rapes were reported in 2012. To process a rape kit for each reporting would cost between $42,188,000 and $126,564,000. The question that arises is this: is the reason for the abandoned rape kits because the prosecution of rape is not considered a priority in the culture in which we live, or is it because the frequency of rape is higher than the law's ability to analyze it?

edited 15th Mar '14 5:31:17 PM by TobiasDrake

1668 LeGarcon15th Mar 2014 05:28:27 PM from Skadovsk , Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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Probably a bit of both unfortunately.
Oh really, when?
1669 Euodiachloris15th Mar 2014 05:32:47 PM from England (Oop North) , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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That tears it: sod the drugs. Turn them into what they should be: a health, not criminal concern.

And, syphon money into the rape kits! I don't think anybody thinks rape isn't a crime. <_<
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1670 TobiasDrake15th Mar 2014 05:44:27 PM from Colorado, USA , Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
And, syphon money into the rape kits! I don't think anybody thinks rape isn't a crime. <_<

Well, some people do, but they are awful and should be shunned. Their opinions don't count.
1671 RadicalTaoist15th Mar 2014 05:46:57 PM from the #GUniverse
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Let's look then at the cost effectiveness of spending law enforcement funds on other areas than rape kit testing. I mean that's a lot of money, but it catches you a rapist - quite possibly a repeat offender, given how many rapes are committed by serial rapists. How many crimes does it prevent to catch those guys?
1672 LeGarcon15th Mar 2014 05:46:59 PM from Skadovsk , Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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Can't quite ignore the drugs.

The real issue with them all isn't that people are using them for their recreation/addiction/whatever, that's a different debate for a different thread.

The issue with drugs in these big cities like Detroit is that every penny that people spend on them is another penny street gangs and other thugs get.

And that's money that buys them weapons and funds their other endeavors like more drug trade and human trafficking.
Oh really, when?
1673 RadicalTaoist15th Mar 2014 05:52:46 PM from the #GUniverse
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So what happens when the demand drops and the price falls out once the drugs are decriminalized and medical treatment for addiction begins on a large scale?
1674 LeGarcon15th Mar 2014 05:55:10 PM from Skadovsk , Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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The addiction treatment would likely be a big help but I've got serious doubts that legalization will.

They'll just keep selling it as usual only now they can't be arrested for it.
Oh really, when?
1675 TuefelHundenIV15th Mar 2014 06:18:08 PM from Wandering. , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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War on drugs is also a big money maker for various locations in many ways. Dealing with rape, not so much.
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