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lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#8226: Jul 31st 2015 at 4:50:37 PM

I do not understand how a game could be so terrible. Game-breaking glitches are understandable given that the game was rushed, but there are so many terrible ideas: absurdly long stages, mach speed, the non-hedgehog characters are boring, control horribly, and are largely pointless, Silver.

What the hell was Sonic Team even thinking?

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#8227: Jul 31st 2015 at 4:59:17 PM

It seems like they wanted to make another Adventure game but failed miserably at it.

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#8228: Jul 31st 2015 at 5:07:38 PM

It's cute that for a second Diabetus actually thought there were testers.

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#8229: Jul 31st 2015 at 5:15:29 PM

Having been a fan of Two Best Friends/Super Best Friends for years I've heard a few anecdotes about the video game testing scene, since several of the group are, or were, testers. Apparently the people who actually work on the game may not even listen to their testers at all, which completely defeats the purpose of having testers at all. Obviously this is the sort of thing that would vary from one studio to the next, but I wouldn't be surprised if all the testers for Sonic 06 kept telling Sonic Team everything that was wrong with the game and Sonic Team straight up ignored them.

edited 31st Jul '15 5:15:41 PM by WillKeaton

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#8230: Aug 1st 2015 at 6:50:25 AM

I mean, they literally fired their entire QA team during production of this game, so there were testers at one point, just not through to the end.

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#8231: Aug 1st 2015 at 6:51:59 AM

They cut corners like fuck in order to rush the game out to meet a Holiday deadline. That almost never works and in the end, Sonic 06 became the ur-example of why rushing a game will almost always result in disaster.

Although granted Sonic 2 was also rushed to a degree and that's one of the best games of all time.

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#8232: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:06:55 AM

You know what else had rushed production? Super Mario World. Yeah.

Granted, though, it's not necessarily fair to compare a 2-D platformer with only really tiny, visual gag sprite-based cutscenes to a 20-hour 3-D platformer with voice acting, some semblance of a plot, tons of different music, etc.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#8233: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:23:23 AM

Lots of good games were rushed out the door. My favorite JRPG of all time was one of the most rushed. That doesn't mean they couldn't of been better if the developers had given them more time.

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#8234: Aug 1st 2015 at 8:01:37 AM

Sonic games being rushed has been common since the second game and frankly it's fucking amazing it took so long to eventually bite them in the ass. For example, Sonic 3 is a literally incomplete game with a jaw-dropping amount of glitches, bugs and oversights.

lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#8235: Aug 1st 2015 at 8:06:53 AM

Being rushed explains the horrible glitches, but 06 has a lot of really terrible design decisions as well.

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#8236: Aug 1st 2015 at 8:09:42 AM

I actually didn't know that about some of those games.

Maybe I shoulda said "Sonic 06 is an example of the bad side of rushing games"

Sonic 3 is really good though if you lock it onto Knuckles.

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#8237: Aug 1st 2015 at 8:11:23 AM

It's overrated. Good, but overrated.

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#8238: Aug 1st 2015 at 9:09:07 AM

I always felt that 3 was much better then 2.

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#8239: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:11:03 AM

Nope.

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#8240: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:15:23 AM

Aye, just my opinion.

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#8241: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:30:35 AM

At least we can agree that both 2 and 3&K are better than the first one and also CD.

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#8242: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:38:27 AM

To be fair, Sonic 1 is only really a good game if you look at it in the context of when it was released. It's kind of eh in hindsight. I mean, really? You go from free as free gets to "navigate slow dungeon"?

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#8243: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:51:37 AM

I can't even really remember Sonic 1's soundtrack beyond Green Hill and Marble.

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#8244: Aug 1st 2015 at 11:19:38 AM

I can! I Ts really good.

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#8245: Aug 1st 2015 at 12:22:14 PM

I mean, yeah, its soundtrack is pretty good, but it's a Sonic soundtrack—bad soundtracks are the exception there.

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#8246: Aug 1st 2015 at 12:40:17 PM

Unless it's Chronicles.

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#8247: Aug 1st 2015 at 1:55:33 PM

I said "bad soundtracks are the exception."

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#8248: Aug 1st 2015 at 3:05:02 PM

I really think people overstate how much worse 06 is than other Sonic games.

I mean, I love Adventure and Adventure 2 to death, but trying to play them now? Basically the exact same experience as 06 without the loading screens.

I don't think 3D Sonic games were actually good until Colors. Maybe Unleashed.

edited 1st Aug '15 3:05:17 PM by Mukora

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#8249: Aug 1st 2015 at 3:23:23 PM

I still enjoy Adventure 1 despite it's glaring flaws.

Not so much in the case of 2. I'm not that much of a fan of Adventure 2.

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#8250: Aug 1st 2015 at 3:32:15 PM

Yeah, I do too. But they have basically all the problems 06 does. Bad writing, shitty controls, poorly designed levels.

The only thing they have going for them is nostalgia, which is fine, but I'm sure there are some people who played 06 as kids and will defend it just as fervently as other Sonic fans defend the Adventure game,

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