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Rational Twilight: Luminosity:

Jesus as in Revelations
WTF?
 2 Ponicalica, Fri, 16th Jul '10 4:49:41 AM from facing Buttercup
Jesus as in Revelations
Sorry, I forgot to add it... I was just so dumbstruck...

I mean...

Twilight

Rational...

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edited 16th Jul '10 4:55:34 AM by RawPower

I think the idea is that this person is trying to rewrite Twilight to make it make sense. A noble, but likely futile goal.
The man was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor and the Nobel Peace Prize. He was the best at both killing and not killing - Stranger
seriously, though. let's think about this. what could actually make a rational teenage girl throw herself at a guy who really only wants to eat her for food and acts like a total douchey stalker?
Adel: Low EARTH orbit! Quistis: FIRE Cavern! Selphie: AIR head! Edea: ICE spear! Rinoa: HEART illy! Ultimecia: By powers COMPRESSED
what could actually make a rational teenage girl throw herself at a guy who really only wants to eat her for food and acts like a total douchey stalker?

If I were you, I'd refrain from making assumptions as to how this is going to play out.
I will keep my soul in a place out of sight,
Far off, where the pulse of it is not heard.
well, yeah, i'm just saying that in order for a character tweak to happen at all, the entire plot would have to change drastically. to the point where it might become Twilight: Bella the Vampire Hunter or something.
Adel: Low EARTH orbit! Quistis: FIRE Cavern! Selphie: AIR head! Edea: ICE spear! Rinoa: HEART illy! Ultimecia: By powers COMPRESSED
Jesus as in Revelations
No matter how Rational you are, your decisions ares still purely emotionally driven once you get down to it, and if you are passionate enough about something the willpower might blow all common sense to smithereens. You can als still make mistakes and miscalculate.

However, from a purely materialistic POV (=/= rational), what is wrong with becoming a rich, strong, eternally young, superpowered, Nigh Immortal being? Surely, there are many restrictions, and the whole bloodlust thing can be highly problematic as anyone who has played Vampire The Maskerade or Vampire: The Requiem can tell (although Our Vampires Are Different), but I can't tell what's wrong about taking advantage of being a Psychic Static and incredibly hot to this particular guy with lots of Resources and a very interesting virus to pass on. If you love him, then all is bliss. If you hate him, you can always brutally dismember him and his family afterwards using your newborn strenght, and then call dibs on their stuff.
Indeed
So... is this any good? If it is, I might actually read Twilight so I can read this.
 10 Ponicalica, Tue, 20th Jul '10 4:46:07 AM from facing Buttercup
From what I understand, this fic, like Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, is attempting to be readable both to people who have read the books and people who haven't.
Jesus as in Revelations
^^ You don't need to read the books, but the appeal is mostly in the contrast, so I recommend you read the original. In both cases.
Jesus as in Revelations
I HAVE BEEN READING THIS AND IT IS AWESOME!!! SO SO SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL! AND HOT, TOO! HOLY SHIT, BEING RATIONAL AND HORNY AS HELL WORKS.

TT_TT THIS IS—- WONDERFUL—-
Jesus as in Revelations
I HAVE BEEN READING THIS AND IT IS AWESOME!!! SO SO SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL! AND HOT, TOO! HOLY SHIT, BEING RATIONAL AND HORNY AS HELL WORKS.

TT_TT THIS IS—- WONDERFUL—-

Chapter 40: THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!
Jesus as in Revelations
Only one sentence is dedicated to Edward and Bella's honeymoon:

edited 29th Sep '10 5:47:40 AM by RawPower

 15 Lull The Conqueror, Wed, 29th Sep '10 5:54:36 AM from eternal loli Hell
Damn, I need to catch up with this. It was still on chapter 29 when I read through it, and I haven't checked back for a while.

But I'll say that I've never read Twilight either, and yet I had no problem getting into this fic. Really, I've heard enough about it on the Internet that it still felt like I was re-exploring familiar territory from a radically different perspective, much like Methods of Rationality.

And if a rational person were to learn that vampires were real, I wouldn't consider them worthy of the descriptor if they didn't want to become one. Being a vampire very nearly completely dominates not being a vampire (particularly in the Twilight verse, where sunlight doesn't even hurt them), and all the points where being human wins out are relatively trivial.

edited 29th Sep '10 5:55:07 AM by LullTheConqueror

the dice are loaded, the deck is stacked, the game itself will hold you back
Jesus as in Revelations
Being a World of Darkness vampire, on the other hand, universally sucks, at least as far as the fluff is concerned.

The end of chapter 32 had me take a Spit Take on behalf of Aro.

edited 29th Sep '10 6:08:01 AM by RawPower

 17 Lull The Conqueror, Wed, 29th Sep '10 6:02:16 AM from eternal loli Hell
I think the Embrace screws with their brain chemistry. I mean, humans are pretty damned angsty as a species, but we've got nothing on WoD vampires. Someone needs to invent vampire Prozac.

edited 29th Sep '10 6:02:40 AM by LullTheConqueror

the dice are loaded, the deck is stacked, the game itself will hold you back
Jesus as in Revelations
I've been reading The Requiem and frankly it's so ridiculously dark. "IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF A VAMPIRE'S REQUIEM THERE IS NO HOPE FOR REDEMPTION, THERE IS NO RESPITE FROM THE BEAST, THERE IS ONLY THE DANSE MACABRE, AND THE LAUGHTER OF THIRSTING ELDERS"

edited 29th Sep '10 6:10:54 AM by RawPower

 19 Taelor, Wed, 29th Sep '10 7:58:25 AM from The Paths of Spite
Don't Forget To Smile
^^^ I think just being alive in the World Of Darkness universally sucks.
Jesus as in Revelations
Or undead. Or dead. Or unalive. Or something else entirely.

edited 29th Sep '10 8:06:59 AM by RawPower

Jesus as in Revelations
As of now if turnings keep expanding like this this story is going to quickly turn into Dance in the Vampire Bund
When dealing with transhumanism, text media doesn't usually do a very good job of describing people's capabilities in their new bodies and minds.

It's odd to find an exception in a Twilight fic.
I will keep my soul in a place out of sight,
Far off, where the pulse of it is not heard.
Jesus as in Revelations
Hey, I didn't think of it that way! To me, Transhumanism is associated with cybernetics, but yeah, vampirism is also an option. She certainly did a wonderful job of describing the thirst. That was frightening.

But, see, what worries me is this: you can't turn all of humanity as things are: there simply aren't enough resources! Bella eats one full orca every week! Emmet eats BEARS!
Sapient Blob of Tofu
So is this written by Eliezer Yudkowsky or not?

EDIT: Oh wait, I know why the name is familiar now, it's another regular Less Wrong contributor.

edited 1st Oct '10 3:04:02 AM by Korgmeister

Again with the data mining, dear Aunt?
Jesus as in Revelations
Also, hers and yudkowsky's styles are way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaay different. Even the humour is an antirely different story.
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