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Edit banned/Suspended - would like to edit again.:

This is the thread we use to talk things over with people who received a suspension notice. A lot of the time the notice goes out just so we can explain how seriously we take certain things, not because we want the person to feel bad and go away.

For a fun site, we're pretty fussy about stuff like grammar and spelling, for example. More than you would expect, considering that we do want the funny. Everything is better with the funny.

Leave a note here indicating you want to talk the suspension over, then hang in there for a bit. A moderator will be along to talk to you about the situation.

NOTE: If you see another banned person post something that you want to comment on, don't. This thread is for discussion between banned people and Mods - no third parties invited.

While you're at it, browse What to Do If You Are Suspended.

edited 2nd Dec '13 9:48:19 PM by FastEddie

 1901 Some Sort Of Troper, Thu, 27th Sep '12 2:01:13 PM Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, she is imaginary
OK, I'm here for the thread. What's next.
Don't just tell us the facts; tell us the memes, tell us the archetypes, tell us the catchy ideas and symbolic roles that get planted in pe
 1902 Willbyr, Thu, 27th Sep '12 2:07:29 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
[up] I see you took it upon yourself to remove the pic from Mutually Fictional despite it having already been chosen by an Image Pickin' thread and being tagged thusly in the page coding. You've been around long enough to know that page pics go through IP for changes; what was the point of that?
 1903 Some Sort Of Troper, Thu, 27th Sep '12 2:33:22 PM Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, she is imaginary
Well that pic goes directly against the changes made for the old trope repair shop thread and was already discussed before at one point, iirc, and I thought "well ain't this an omnishambles". I didn't take the use of percentages as anything special because everybody has one of those on their keyboards and that page would have been plastered with them already if I didn't generally dislike them. Usually with TRS issues turning up again the best thing is to delete it, mention a conflict with the TRS result and then sometimes they come back and it gets taken to the discussion page, often not.

And also, I'm really confused by the time line and wasn't convinced that the image was chosen for this version of the page.

I notice that I didn't properly identify the TRS issue and I'm sorry for that.

edited 27th Sep '12 2:53:05 PM by SomeSortOfTroper

Don't just tell us the facts; tell us the memes, tell us the archetypes, tell us the catchy ideas and symbolic roles that get planted in pe
Lexsom
Hello, I've recently received a message informing me I was banned from editing. I'm still relatively new to this site so I understand I probably made some mistakes, but I don't know exactly what I did to be banned. Any help being told so I don't do it again?
Have no regrets, just lessons learned.
 1905 shimaspawn, Sat, 29th Sep '12 8:16:31 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
@ lexsom: You have a tendency to use a lot of This Troper in your editing and a tendency to violate Repair, Don't Respond. The wiki is not a discussion board.

edited 30th Sep '12 8:19:11 AM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
Lexsom
One, thanks for responding so quickly. Two, I can see how that lead to some issues. I wasn't aware of the Repair, Don't Respond rule up until last night, and I can assure you it won't happen again.
Have no regrets, just lessons learned.
Okay okay, it's been whole weeks now and i should've seen the "please no recreations"-warning. (Lol even I DNDTR). Have I suffered long enough now?

you know what, nevermind. It's probably for the best.

edited 30th Sep '12 5:23:17 PM by Ashoka

 1909 shimaspawn, Mon, 1st Oct '12 1:33:23 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
@ lexsom62: I'm going to unban you. Do not start up the natter again.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
OK, what did I do to get banned?
 
 1911 Fighteer, Mon, 1st Oct '12 2:29:06 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
With Mod Hat On
Does the name GentelmanPornographer mean anything to you?
Neoclassicism, AKA the Tinkerbell school of economics.
  • politely waves to get attention to my previous post*

pleasebring back my right to edit. i wish for my editing privlages back please return them back to me
 
 1914 Fighteer, Mon, 1st Oct '12 9:06:19 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
With Mod Hat On
@Zeanobia: Can we trust you to behave in a mature fashion about things you disagree with? There are no third chances.

@dilong: You did not do what we told you to do when you first inquired about your suspension. Your English is still terrible and you have made no attempt to use the help thread. You also do not understand the Complete Monster trope and were using it inappropriately. We will not be letting you edit.
Neoclassicism, AKA the Tinkerbell school of economics.
@Fighteer Yes, also remember that I started out with more mature means before recreating. I could've been using the less acceptable means long time ago if I wanted. I just didn't.

edited 1st Oct '12 10:47:41 PM by Zeanobia

 1916 Fighteer, Tue, 2nd Oct '12 9:01:26 AM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Do you realize that what you're saying is not an argument in favor of reinstating you? "I could have broken the rules at any time. I only did so when I got tired of following them." I find it hard to believe that you think this is convincing.

edited 2nd Oct '12 9:02:16 AM by Fighteer

Neoclassicism, AKA the Tinkerbell school of economics.
 1917 lu 127, Tue, 2nd Oct '12 12:41:26 PM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
With Mod Hat On
Well that pic goes directly against the changes made for the old trope repair shop thread and was already discussed before at one point, iirc, and I thought "well ain't this an omnishambles". I didn't take the use of percentages as anything special because everybody has one of those on their keyboards and that page would have been plastered with them already if I didn't generally dislike them. Usually with TRS issues turning up again the best thing is to delete it, mention a conflict with the TRS result and then sometimes they come back and it gets taken to the discussion page, often not.

And also, I'm really confused by the time line and wasn't convinced that the image was chosen for this version of the page.

I notice that I didn't properly identify the TRS issue and I'm sorry for that.

There are several issues here:

The TRS for Mutually Fictional ended back on July 2011, when the bad Doctor Who picture was deleted.

The picture you deleted was chosen in IP on September/October, two months after the TRS thread. Therefore, it does not precede the repair.

Third, commented out notes that are given as admin, mod or Image Pickin' notes are not things you can delete. Especially not reversing IP changes, since that goes against consensus. You should know better than to act unilaterally.

Lastly, your statement that 'anyone can add commented out notes' so you don't consider them valid" is a cause for concern, as is the implication that you'd be adding commented out instructions all over the place if you didn't personally dislike them.

edited 2nd Oct '12 12:41:53 PM by lu127

迷子の足音消えた
代わりに祈りの唄
@Fighteer It should be interpreted as a beserk button of mine that got more effect, because I didn't notice the "Don't recreate"-disclaimer. So I admit that I acted before I thought. What I meant with the police state (which by the way techinacally was never a statement of mine) was that I expected a warning should I ever cross the line.

Now as I was trying to say last time; one way or another I got the hint about not recreating tropes now.

I'm sorry, but no it does not. I honestly have no idea what you're talking about, and a quick search of the wiki brings up some guy named Phil Foglio, whoever that is. If I could get some context for why I was banned, it would be rather useful.
 
 1920 Some Sort Of Troper, Tue, 2nd Oct '12 3:59:22 PM Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, she is imaginary
[up][up][up] Well fine, I promise, cross my heart and hope to die, scouts honour, that I won't touch any of the results that the IP forum picks. I got confused about the timeline because the IP thread discussed an image already deleted and because nobody referenced anything about the changed content. Had I been more aware of how things went, I probably would have started another IP thread.

However, I didn't say "'anyone can add commented out notes' so you don't consider them valid". "Valid" is nonsensical in this context. I said that it didn't indicate anything special to me. There are comments all over the wiki. Often they happen after a little bit of discussion between a handful of people on the discussion page or perhaps some minor edit skirmish, long lost to the history tab. The only thing I've seen to ever consider them worth more than that, after a long time on the wiki, to think that if I touch I will be struck down by a vengeful god is what's happening right now.

This is why I (pedantic point) explicitly said that I would use comments if I didn't happen to like them: I am often in situations where they may be useful but I think that there's nothing to indicate why that comment is there or who put it there, they can't discuss things with a comment and they don't gain any real understanding from it. I prefer to curate, wait around and leave overly long edit reasons. When I do things like that, people thank me for it, literally.

edited 2nd Oct '12 4:00:08 PM by SomeSortOfTroper

Don't just tell us the facts; tell us the memes, tell us the archetypes, tell us the catchy ideas and symbolic roles that get planted in pe
My grammar must be pretty awful if my editing privileges are being suspended. That, or I did too much changes on one of the trope pages.
 
 1922 Fighteer, Wed, 3rd Oct '12 7:25:13 AM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
With Mod Hat On
Hi, derpy. I'm glad you went to the effort to post here; I had concerns that you might not. Put very simply, you appear to be a shitposter who uses multiple sockpuppets to stir up trouble.

  • You make wiki edits in articles like NightmareFuel.Other that are seemingly designed to shock and offend.
  • You start topics in the On-Topic Conversations forum that are inflammatory and/or controversial, then abandon them and never contribute.

It took me some time to recognize the pattern, but when I analyzed the posting and editing history across all of your accounts, what you're up to became obvious. You make just enough good wiki edits to throw things off. You have some grammar issues too, but that's not my primary concern.

I'm also annoyed that you created another sock yesterday in what looks like an attempt to circumvent the bans I issued.

Normally this sort of thing gets you bounced from the site, but I am giving you exactly one chance to explain yourself.

edited 3rd Oct '12 7:26:07 AM by Fighteer

Neoclassicism, AKA the Tinkerbell school of economics.
Hello I have a bit of a problem. I seem to have been banned for restoring good information. When I was looking at the page for Wounded Gazelle Gambit I noticed that the information about the show Code Geass was false. Specifically that Schneizel was lying when he said he could be geassed. Click on explanation to see a brief summery of the situation.

Explanation 

Also could somebody undo some strange changes made to tropes I added to the Double Dare (1986) page? *. A troper called mlsmithca has changed all the pronouns into s/he and his/her *. She also italicized show titles every time they appeared *. I know most people on this site (including myself) do not follow the APA writing guidelines. However these changes just make the page look awkward.

edited 3rd Oct '12 12:56:13 PM by noman

 
 1924 Fighteer, Wed, 3rd Oct '12 1:05:36 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
With Mod Hat On
Noman, I'm not sure if I can say this nicely so I won't even bother. You're wrong — completely, dead wrong. First, we do follow style guidelines on this wiki. We also require proper English spelling and grammar, in which you are sorely lacking. Third, an explanation was given for why that example was wrong and you ignored it. The proper avenue for contesting wiki edits is the Discussion page, private messages, and as a last resort, Ask The Tropers, not edit warring.

Fourth, you are a ban evader, aka Ranonames/Ranonamis. As such, we will not allow you to edit even if you are perfect in every way.

edited 3rd Oct '12 1:08:09 PM by Fighteer

Neoclassicism, AKA the Tinkerbell school of economics.
Ok, Why did I get my editing taken away? And why does this revoke me from going to stuff like ask the tropers (Where I like to go and ask things) and lost and found? Banning without an explanation is a great way to piss people off.

edited 3rd Oct '12 2:17:37 PM by captainsandwich

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