Thanks for replying.
I can see how I have been coming across as too "preachy" sometimes. And I do know that some of the topics that interest me are very sensitive to some people.
When starting a new trope page, there are really three things to consider... 1. Is it a valid trope? 2. Is it worthwhile? (As in, would anyone consider it interesting or fun or both?) 3. And is it presented in a way that is good to read? I have sometimes strayed into areas that are too technical and long-winded for most readers. Not making it as fun as it could be, and getting into too much detail.
I haven't started or joined any new projects since our talk in June. At all. The whole mess with prejudice against Asian women was already ongoing, since a long time. I did not start that mess, it was a total mess before I got here. However, my emotional involvement in TV Tropes
was counterproductive for my efforts to help solving it. On this one issue, I have been far more "preachy" and irritable than is normal for my participation in TV Tropes
. Sorry about that.
I considered the mess to be embarrassing to TV Tropes
, and since I identified as being one of the tropes I also felt embarrassed personally. This was also a potential real life problem for me: I have relatives and friends who are in white/Asian mixed relationships. If they had read the old version of "me love yo long time", it is likely that they had perceived it as "People Sit on Chairs And That's Terrible
" with strong racist and misogynistic overtones. Just like I and many other tropes did.
Debating against a troper who simply kept repeating over and over and over that we should return to having a racist/sexist slur as trope title didn't really improve my mindset... but I do realize that it's my own responsibility to not let him trigger me.
Lets compare to the whole thing with renaming the rape tropes. I wasn't really involved in that, but I do approve. And I consider it to be the same kind of problem: There shouldn't be any room for people to get the impression that TV Tropes
believe that "rape is okay" and so on. Just like we shouldn't risk coming across as promoting prejudice and bigotry. Writing about it is okay, but we should be careful with how we frame it. Of course, such carefulness should be done without overcompensating.
So. It's a misunderstanding when you get the idea that I'm using TV Tropes
to talk about things that bug me: It hasn't been about things that bug me in general as much as it has been about things that bug me on TV Tropes
. This has probably spilled over into mistaking me for being bugged when I'm not.
@Fighteer: I did one big mistake in our first talk about that WKTTW thread in June. When you said that it "sounded like complaining", you probably meant that you thought I was complaining about something in real life. That I had a thing against royal families, or whatever. But I really had no idea about that, since it was so far from my actual mindset. And I didn't yet know that you had just received a very angry lesser about what an evil person I am. (I know that now, because of a gloating mail the guy sent me after my second post here about being banned.)
Well, I did understand that with "complaining" you meant "complaining
". It's just that I at first believed that you merely meant that the trope could be misused in that way. I didn't get that you somehow had gotten the idea that such misuse would have been my intention. Thus I didn't understand why you used such an unpleasant tone of voice with me at the time, and my first reply might have come across as somewhat sarcastic. If so, sorry about that.