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Also, on that page, because of the use of the word "Nerdgasms", the Robert Downey Jr. entry is boxed...

It would make it a Fan Reaction though.

One Of Us is basically 340K worth of gloating over how more people have "geeky" interests than pop culture would have you believe. I honestly believe it could use an Example Sectionectomy, but that's a topic for a different thread.

@ Killomatic, post n°194: I understood that. The point of my post was actually, since it's the thread where we can suggest banners (or not) for some tropes: are In Name Only and Spiritual Successor really YMMV?

It's their use that seems to be the problem. In Name Only seems to attract natter, and Spiritual Successor would seem to often largely be a matter of opinion unless confirmed by Word of God.

Is Hilarity Ensues supposed to be YMMV?

Not sure. It may have been added to the YMMV index by mistake. Then again, what constitutes "hilarity" may indeed be subjective.

^^^ So, per se they would be non-YMMV without the natter. Okay, exposing the problem that got me there so I let you judge of the course of action to take:

(Sorry in advance for the Wall of Text that'll follow)

Both of those tropes are in use in the Tokimeki Memorial article, one of those I actively watch and work on. Just recently, I've created its YMMV tab, and moved YMMV tropes there, and those two appeared as YMMV on the main article the day after my edit.

Now, I think those two tropes apply objectively in that work: The In Name Only movie of Tokimeki Memorial doesn't take place in the game's setting of Kirameki, has an original cast that don't show up elsewhere in the franchise, and none of the chars of the game appear in that movie. The only thing that movie share with the game really is its name.

As for Spiritual Successor, not counting the Shira Oka reference (which wasn't added by me), the three mentioned games, Mitsumete Knight, Meine Liebe, and Love Plus, are made by the same company as Tokimeki Memorial, Konami, use the same game engine (for the first two games) and ideas, are regulary linked to Tokimeki Memorial via Shout Outs, and interviews of Word of God admit the spiritual link between those games and Tokimemo.

What should I do? Should I mark them with a "In-universe example" or something, or do I really have to move them to the YMMV tab?

edited 31st Jan '11 8:23:35 AM by AceNoctali

We could take it down, it's not really used as a trope entry anyways, more commonly a part of work descriptions.

It's something like Played for Laughs, but in different sentence structures

edited 31st Jan '11 8:20:04 AM by EternalSeptember

I'm pretty sure that Spiritual Successor is another objective trope that got caught up in the mess.

^ Okay, thanks. Also, what's your opinion on In Name Only ?

I agree with Fighteer that it could easily attract natter.

The title invokes No True Scotsman by claiming that if a sequel is very different, it is not a "true" example of the franchise, it just steals the name.

Maybe send it to the TRS and make it more neutral?

Why is Stunned Silence a YMMV? It's in-universe.

Dunno but I took it off. It also needs an index.

I have a few questions.

How are Word of God and Official Couple subjective?

If Word of God is Subjective then how come Shrug of God isnt?

Just curious more than anything. Also, I saw a post above by Big T that i have a question about. How is Foe Yay Canon implied romance between enemies? Some of the examples have nothing Canon about them.

Again as i said, I'm just curious more than anything.

X Meets Y has a YMMV banner. That doesn't feel right to me.

We're debating some of those still. Word of God seems to be used in many places as, "The author said this and it proves my [subjective opinion] right." Official Couple is a Shipping Trope and gets the banner for being on that index, and because it still has elements of Take That! in its usage.

Foe Yay needs to be cleaned up to match its new definition, which is explicit sexual subtext. Foe Yay Shipping is the new subjective version, I think.

X Meets Y got on the YMMV index somehow. I took it off.

Thanks for the response Fighteer. Appreciate it.

Cruel and Unusual Death says on the page itself that it's "somewhat of a Subjective Trope."

We're working on cleaning those up. Unfortunately the pages are very very large. If anyone wants to help it would be apprechiated.

I suspect Awesome, but Impractical is subjective. "Awesome" is not an objective criterion.

The criteria for awesome appears to be "flashy."

edited 31st Jan '11 2:01:16 PM by SpellBlade

Everything about shipping is YMMV. That's why the banner keeps coming back.

Is Cruel and Unusual Death being used as a subjective in examples? I'm leaning towards marking it YMMV. Same with Awesome, but Impractical. Any objections?

edited 31st Jan '11 2:13:15 PM by Fighteer

YMMV, trough and trough. One can argue forver what is "cruel" or "unusual" or "awesome".