edited 16th Feb '13 4:53:32 AM by MarqFJA
KUYOU used PRESENT!
It's super effective!The cousins must have been really tiring if Sasaki* could get to sleep so easily. And I think we have an exclamation in the narration from Yuki's point of view. I'll probably pull from the random bag again later.
edited 16th Feb '13 10:52:56 AM by Filraen
edited 16th Feb '13 10:29:54 AM by Eamil
edited 16th Feb '13 11:25:36 AM by Filraen
Re. Hanyuu. Interesting, it seems that the question about Hanyuu gaining a permanent corporeal form already has an answer. Following canon, Hanyuu already had the power to do it but in K:BDH she prefers to save her energy for an emergency, even if Kuyou is there to provide her with enough "spin". Do you think Kuyou's modified spin-laced cookies counts as Power-Up Food? The thing I'm wondering now is why Yuki, Ryouko and Kuyou are keeping Hanyuu as a secret from the rest of the Brigade.
Re. Kanae. I have just one big complain about the chapter, namely the fact that the conversation between Kanae and Rika happened offscreen. The potential interactions between Rika, Hanyuu and Kanae due to how similar their backstories are and how this would affect Kanae are two of the things I'm looking forward the most about the trip to Hinamizawa. For that reason I liked a lot how Kyon connected the dots and arranged their meeting. Potentially, this could be the cue for the reveal of some of the things the Brigade is hiding from Kanae.
Re. Haruhi. It's just me or Haruhi and Kyon are Speaking In Unison a lot lately? I wonder why it's that... Funnily enough and with the exception of the matters related to CS!Haruhi, it's interesting to see how Haruhi and Kyon's roles are being kind of reversed. Currently, it seems that Haruhi knows more secrets about Kyon than the other way around.
Re. Akane and Yuuto. I must be obvious now but the circumstances surrounding Kyon's birth was the source of my outburst in the last page of the thread. IMHO, this reveal really put Akane's behavior about Kyon in perspective even if I do think her approach is wrong. It also explain Yuuto's slight overprotective tendencies about Nonoko. I feel I'm missing a connection, though. How do you think Akane's backstory explains her attitude towards Kyon and Tsuruya's Arranged Marriage? It's like Akane is expecting the history will repeat itself with Kyon and she wants him married before that happens. I also have a feeling that the death of Maebara Ichirou (Akane and Keiichi's father) is important somehow. On a more lighter note and assuming a family resemblance strong enough between Akane and her daughter, it's kind of amusing to try to picture teen!Akane as a mid-nineties' teen rebel Nonoko with her mother's PO'd attitude. Also, if Yuuto was around sixteen when they met, then it's possible that he arrived to Hinamizawa in a motorcycle instead of a car because of Japan's age requirements for driver permits. P.S.: The closest thing to what have in mind.◊ Unrelated: for some reason fanart of "psycho Imouto with scissors" in kind of popular. Imagine Spot: Akane finds a "box of individually packaged foil-wrapped 'protection'" in Kyon's room and gets very worried. Not so much because of its content but because it's still unopened.
Re. Rena. I'm not too sure about what is going on here, I can't even tell whether Rena's bipolarity is being Played for Laughs or not. If it's not and considering how capable to deal with problems the Higurashi cast is, the only sure way that the Brigade will get a real chance to see what is happening to Rena is if Keiichi and the others actually fail to help her and things go out of control. If the story takes this route, it would be difficult for something too bad to happen because there are several people who can stop Rene if she goes all "nata-onna"* mode on someone, even under Sasaki's Power Nullifier. For some reason I think that her most likely target would be Kyon (to a lesser extent Sasaki) because of his current outfit. Although, I think it's more likely that events won't take such a turn but still something will happen that will bring the Brigade's attention, and particularly Yuki's, to the Hinamizawa Syndrome. It would be interesting to see how the Hate Plague fits within the inner mechanics of this verse. My personal theory is that the Hinamizawa Syndrome is pernicious side effect of a particular strain of a data lifeforms that use people as their host (basically the plot of Wandering Shadow with humans instead of dogs) and the current "Hanyuu" is in fact an enormous set of them that were imprinted with the mind of the original Hanyuu. Under this hypothesis, I chalk the lack of people going crazy in Matsuribayashi-hen up to Hanyuu taking a corporeal form, which attracted most of the data lifeforms in the environment to her because she constitutes a better host than any other person*.
Re. Koizumi & Kyouko. It's amazing how the incipient romance between two ESPers who used to belong to opposite sides of a conspiracy centered around two so-called goddesses is the most normal one of the story, even if it started after one of them saved the other from Time Traveler who tried to kill the latter with a Morph Weapon stolen from a slider. If they eventually tie the knot, I'm guessing the wedding speeches would be epic. BTW, for some reason Mori×Kasai doesn't rank very high in my "normalcy-o-meter", probably because one of them is a very suspicious individual with close ties to shady business and the other is a yakuza bodyguard. One thing that caught my attention about the last section of the chapter was the bit about Kyouko not being sure about what to think of Kyon due to the bias induced by her Psychic Link to Sasaki. Makes me wonder if Koizumi went through a similar dilemma in the past.
@Filraen: "Blackmail" Is Such an Ugly Word... (sorry, I couldn't help myself)
edited 16th Feb '13 4:46:23 PM by Specular
edited 16th Feb '13 4:19:45 PM by Eamil
Re. Power-Up Food. IINM, Kuyou used her cookies to transfer "spin" to Hanyuu so she could have the energy to materialize herself if she wanted to. Probably it's not too obvious because the information is fragmented between Kuyou and Yuki's narration:
Re. Data lifeforms theory. About the vaccine, IIRC it's based on Rika's blood. Injecting a sample from Hanyuu's main host to an infected person maybe gets some of data lifeforms ferried along the ride and some of the strains are more capable of transferring its code and overwriting the faulty behavior of the variants that cause the Syndrome. I'm guessing the vaccine's research amounted to identify the most successful versions (in this sense) and determinate how facilitate their self-replication. Long Story Short, Irie's research was Right for the Wrong Reasons.
edited 16th Feb '13 5:58:39 PM by Eamil
edited 16th Feb '13 10:08:20 PM by JasonUlloa
edited 16th Feb '13 11:37:10 PM by Grahf
Unrelated topic. There is a notable Absence of Evidence in the last chapter, or rather absentees: Miyuki and her parents. IINM, they should be around Hinamizawa at this point of time. From the fact they weren't mentioned in Mion, Rika or Rena's houses, I'm guessing they are staying either with Satoko or in Okinomiya*. In the latter case, perhaps with Oishi. IIRC he and Mamoru became good friends after Himatsubushi-hen and they still were in the epilogue of Tsumihoroboshi-hen (set in 2007). Fun fact: Koizumi and Mamoru were voiced by the same seiyu.
Re. Sex by Proxy. Actually...
edited 17th Feb '13 7:25:32 AM by Specular
edited 21st Feb '13 1:03:46 AM by Grahf
Tropes question. Regardless of the Brainwashed and Crazy thing, do you think that Yamane perhaps had good reasons to think bad of Kyon in an Entertainingly Wrong/Rear Window Witness kind of way? Think about it from his PoV: The girl whom he had a huge crush on (Asakura) leaves a note in the shoe locker of another guy (Kyon). After class ended that day, the girl and the guy meet in an empty classroom. Later, an unrelated person (Taniguchi) walks in on them and quickly runs away after apparently seeing them in a compromising position* . Finally, the very next day, their homeroom teacher informs them that the girl transfered out of the school and the said guy is not one bit surprised about it. With such partial information, it wouldn't be too hard to come up with a scenario where Asakura confessed to Kyon, who took advantage of the girl's feelings and then just dumped her, which left Asakura too hurt and feeling too humiliated to attend to the same school as the jerk. Alternatively, if one is willing to ramp up the sordid implications and we could say she was too scared to return.
edited 21st Feb '13 10:25:02 AM by Specular