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Deadlock Clock: Jun 1st 2018 at 11:59:00 PM
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#1: May 16th 2018 at 9:57:32 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/face_death_9.jpg
I wasn't happy with current pic when it was voted in, but now I found this one which illustrates the dignity part sufficiently well. Anybody else for a swap?

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#2: May 16th 2018 at 7:56:08 PM

It's not bad, but is there a wider shot that shows the full anchor?

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3: May 16th 2018 at 9:28:15 PM

[up] I'd wait on that as well... I've seen the film so I know she's tied to an anchor and that background is the ocean, but it might not be clear to someone who hasn't.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#4: May 17th 2018 at 2:34:36 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/face_anchor_with_dignity_0.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/face_anchor_with_dignity.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/face_anchor_with_dignity_6.jpg
The rest of the anchor is underwater but I can do a little trickery to make it show.

edited 17th May '18 3:32:19 AM by eroock

PeabodySam The Pea Mocker from Behind the computer Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
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#5: May 17th 2018 at 1:26:23 PM

From Trope Distinctions / D To F:

I definitely see "A character accepts dignified death" in the suggestion, but not "as appropriate punishment for their misdeeds." If the Trope Distinctions page is wrong, then it must be edited accordingly.

... until SUDDENLY DINOSAURS.
neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#6: May 17th 2018 at 1:28:32 PM

Another option I neglected to mention last thread...

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/facedeathwithdignity.png

bitemytail from Arizona Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#7: May 17th 2018 at 1:34:20 PM

[up] Also missing the misdeed part.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/facing_death.png
some caption text

Black Mage gladly lets Lich kill him, and is completely nonplussed by ending up in Hell.

edited 17th May '18 1:42:47 PM by bitemytail

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#8: May 17th 2018 at 1:51:25 PM

^ Well, it has a line about something to be paid for.

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#9: May 17th 2018 at 3:15:08 PM

I didn't mean for the "punishment for a misdeed" interpretation of the trope, but more generally. I'm not particularly familiar with the full context of the example I used, but it has text to back it up unlike the current, even though the visuals on their own do the trick for either.

I'm not sure whether the trope distinction is right or not, but aspects of the trope not inherent in it often get edited into other pages. Perhaps it'd be best to check the edit history to see how it was originally defined?

edited 17th May '18 3:15:39 PM by neoYTPism

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#10: May 17th 2018 at 3:46:30 PM

Even the first version of the page had this limited for tragic characters.

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#11: May 18th 2018 at 5:55:17 AM

Sarah has gotten in over her head. She's made mistakes, powerful enemies, or otherwise bitten off more than she can chew, and they want their Pound Of Flesh. Running will only make things worse for her and her loved ones, so faced with the alternatives... she chooses to face death with dignity. She turns herself in, doesn't put up a fight, and in so doing takes responsibility for her actions and gains a measure of control in the only choice she had left.
- The description

So it's not "accept punishment" as in "what I'm punished for is wrong and my own fault" so much as "accept punishment because trying to fight it wouldn't be practical."

That fits neither the title nor the "accepting punishment for misdeeds" thing. It shouldn't have been named after a broader concept if that was the definition.

Anyone know how the trope was described in YKTTW?

Millership from Kazakhstan Since: Jan, 2014
#12: May 18th 2018 at 6:16:54 AM

There's also the Heroic Sacrifice variant described below that bit. Methinks the trope description needs to be fixed a little.

Spiral out, keep going.
Daefaroth Fnord from California Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#13: May 20th 2018 at 1:21:34 AM

[up][up]According to the archived discussion on the trope page:

YKTTW: Walking willingly to her death launched as Face Death With Dignity

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Willbyr MOD Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#15: Jun 2nd 2018 at 5:13:49 PM

I am just wondering if this trope only applies for characters deserving of death, what would be the trope for all those kind-hearted characters facing death this way, like at the end of (major spoilers) Deep Impact, Rogue One or Melancholia.

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#16: Jun 2nd 2018 at 8:14:01 PM

I'm thinking this should be taken to TRS.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#17: Jun 3rd 2018 at 2:46:17 AM

I’m fine with tabling this and taking the discussion to TRS.

TheUnsquished Filthy casual from Southern Limey Land (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#18: Jun 3rd 2018 at 4:29:49 AM

Sounds good to me.

(Annoyed grunt)
neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#19: Jun 4th 2018 at 1:17:26 PM

Thread created, then, although I did forget to type the trope name into that box that creates a link to the thread from the trope page...

Willbyr MOD Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#20: Jun 4th 2018 at 7:30:45 PM

Cool; I'll close this for now and re-open it if/when the TRS thread resolves.

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