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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Jan 3rd 2018 at 1:13:35 PM

The current picture on Fighter, Mage, Thief isn't a great illustration, mostly because it depends on the in-picture caption, and furthermore the three characters looks and dress identical.

I really favors this picture from Flaky Pastry, which very much illustrate the three archetypes with no need for words, and has good color contrast to boot.

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#2: Jan 3rd 2018 at 2:08:04 PM

That’s leagues better than the current.

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#3: Jan 3rd 2018 at 2:22:03 PM

Wouldn't we need permission from the author though?

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#5: Jan 3rd 2018 at 4:17:46 PM

[up] Those are both good, and shouldn't carry the permission requirement for the OP that bitemytail correctly pointed out.

edited 3rd Jan '18 4:18:11 PM by Willbyr

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#6: Jan 4th 2018 at 9:05:31 AM

I prefer 4.2 over 4.1.

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#7: Jan 4th 2018 at 9:10:10 AM

I think I'd advocate for 4.1 since the thief's archetype is more pronounced with the lock-picking

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#8: Jan 4th 2018 at 10:02:38 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fighter_mage_thief_7.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fighter_mage_thief1.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fighter_mage_thief2.jpg
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edited 4th Jan '18 10:23:32 AM by eroock

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#9: Jan 4th 2018 at 10:14:55 AM

So far, OP>8.2>8.1.

The stark contrast between the mage and the fighter in 4.2/8.2 makes me favor it more than the first. The thief is relatively unclear in both, but I find the details are more easily discernible in the second one.

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#10: Jan 4th 2018 at 6:48:55 PM

I'm fine with the OP, or 8.2.

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#13: Jan 6th 2018 at 12:34:58 PM

None of the suggestions really illustrate the trope though.

The trope is how RPG classes revolve around those three archetype. It's about mechanics. The pictures are all "Things with Mages, Thieves and Fighters" with no illustration of how that relates to RPG Mechanics. Which is only going to invite misuse and Trope Decay as people shoehorn the trope for any work that has has mage, thieves and fighters.

The current might have issues, but the big giant "CHOOSE A CHARACTER" makes the point that this is a trope about RPG mechanics.

At least pick something that has a character select screen or something. The OP is probably the worst of the shit suggestions as it's clearly from a comic and so it invites the idea that any work with characters who fit those class names apply.

edited 6th Jan '18 12:38:23 PM by Ghilz

GreeneMachine92 Since: Oct, 2011
#14: Jan 6th 2018 at 1:06:24 PM

"Which is only going to invite misuse and Trope Decay as people shoehorn the trope for any work that has has mage, thieves and fighters."

Yeah it's not like there's a folder for non-Video Game examples...

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#16: Jan 6th 2018 at 1:31:04 PM

Trine is pretty much this The Game so how about the character set

edited 6th Jan '18 1:31:25 PM by Daefaroth

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#17: Jan 6th 2018 at 1:51:32 PM

^ The point raised in 13 is that the image should indicate that the player is limited to choose between those three archetypes.

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#18: Jan 6th 2018 at 2:03:38 PM

[up][up] You suggest something.

I never said I had one. I'm not the one that opened the thread either. My point is the suggested replacement are worst than the current in terms of showing the actual trope. And it's not because a thread is opened that we're forced to change if no one's got anything better.

Yeah it's not like there's a folder for non-Video Game examples...

Based on the definition it doesn't have to be a Videogame RPG. Pen and Paper and Gamebooks and certain board games would qualify. Anything else, well, that's just illustrating my point about Trope Decay.

edited 6th Jan '18 2:05:54 PM by Ghilz

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#19: Jan 6th 2018 at 2:17:17 PM

Character select screen from Shadow over Mystara Arcade

Fighter and Dwarf are fighters; Thief is a thief; and Magic U, Elf, and Cleric are mages

edited 6th Jan '18 2:22:11 PM by Daefaroth

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#20: Jan 6th 2018 at 9:02:55 PM

[up] It's confusing if there are more than three of them, it looks more like Five Races or something (even though there are six of them).

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#22: Jan 21st 2018 at 5:37:20 AM

The crowner options for post 8 are duplicates, though.

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#23: Jan 21st 2018 at 8:17:45 AM

I've always seen the TES one frequently and honestly their look is perfect.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#24: Jan 21st 2018 at 10:01:11 AM

^ The pic (as all other suggestions) lacks to show "exclusively" Fighter Mage Thief.

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#25: Jan 27th 2018 at 6:53:37 AM

Well, for better or worse, the crowner's spoken. The new pic's up and tagged; caption?

Old pic:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fighter_mage_thief_8.jpg
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20th Jan '18 5:51:03 PM

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