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#2: Jul 14th 2017 at 12:50:06 AM
This sort of thread requires solid support for the charge of misuse. Please read Administrivia.How To Do A Wick Check, and do a proper one. Picking a few examples from the page itself is not sufficient.
You have 2 days @Overord. If there is no wick check by Monday morning, the thread will be locked
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#3: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:41:07 AM
Seems like this didn't happen so closing.
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I have posting on the Complete Monster Clean Up thread and the Generic Doomsday Villain trope is often brought up in that thread, mainly because a GDV cannot be a Complete Monster. However it has quickly become apparent that the Generic Doomsday Villain trope itself is often misused, with people often putting in villains they don't like or find boring, rather then just putting in examples that have no personality.
Here are some listed examples that do not meet the requirements:
Shinzon from Star Trek: Nemesis is not a Generic Doomsday Villain. He has a defined back story, he is a evil Picard clone created by the Romulans to take his place, the Romulans abandoned that plan and sent him to a slave mine with the Romulans race of slaves, the Remans. So he has a reason for say killing the Romulan Senate in the beginning of the movie.
He has also has a reason for targeting Picard, he is suffering from a disease that can only be cured by a blood transfusion and organs from Picard to himself. He also seems to be envious of Picard, saying his life is meaningless while Picard is still alive. The only thing that is not well explained, is why he wants to destroy the Federation. But since most of his other actions have some motives, it seems like he is not a GDV.
Doomsday from the Justice League cartoon doesn't count either, he is very different from his comic counterpart. Doomsday in the comics is just a mindless killing machine, so he counts. Animated Doomsday from the JLU cartoon was a failed Superman clone who was tortured by Cadmus and conditioned to hate Superman, he has a defined reason to try and kill Superman.
The New Order from Cobra is another example are listed, but I do not think they count, because they are not a over whelming powerful force, but just mooks who happen to share the Night Slashers nihilistic outlook, that is their motive. I don't think random henchmen should count for this trope
I also think Imperiex from Legion of Super-Heroes doesn't count either, he is given a back story, a former gladiator slave who loved to fight, was given cyborg upgrades to become a better fighter, eventually overthrew his masters and decides to become a conqueror.
Anyway those are just some obvious bad examples of this Trope that I am familiar with, I am sure there are others.
I think there are some guidelines we can impose on this trope to make it better. I think the no characterization quality is something that is paramount, a villain can be one dimensional or rather basic without being a Generic Doomsday Villain.
A villain can have a basic goal, a lust for power for example, but if they use treachery, manipulation or complex, convoluted schemes to achieve their ends, they shouldn't count, those things make a villain more complicated then this trope outlines.