Does Not Illustrate: Super Soldier

The man in the image does not seem to be a super soldier. First, he does not seem "super", he seems to be wearing a Powered Armor, which is not the same. And second, he does not seem to be a soldier, but a standard combat mook.

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Considering the fact that these are soldiers we're talking about, I think the armor is okay — if not expected.

I don't think that illustrates the trope. Are they all super soldiers or just the (normal-looking) guy?

From Fallout: [1]◊, [2]

I think it will take normal soldiers compared somehow with the super soldier to illustrate properly.

This epic cosplay was the best I could turn up with a quick search for Space Marine and Guardsmen in one image.

I disagree, that is Elite Mook. An army could be made up entirely of Super Soldiers.

I think the current image is okay. A Space Marine kind of Super-Soldier might be expected to also be wearing Powered Armor. He looks Super for other reasons, and the caption also says he is.

It would be nice if the page image and quote weren't from the same source, though. The trope is broader than that; an example of a different kind of Super-Soldier might be better.

edited 16th Mar '17 4:16:26 AM by rodneyAnonymous

The suggestions in @5 look more like mutants than soldiers.

Captain America◊? The Winter Soldier◊?

edited 18th Mar '17 5:24:31 AM by Adept

I found this before and after of him getting the serum in the movie:

[1]◊

There's a Captain America game actually titled Super Solider

[2]

If we're going for just a shot, I'd use a movie still to avoid the complication of getting artist permissions:

[3]◊

This is interesting because he's in fatigues, but the shield gives away who it is, illustrating the solider part

[4]◊

I think Cap avoids "image and a caption" problems since he's pretty much the poster boy for Super Soliders for a lot of people and one of the most famous examples.

edited 19th Mar '17 1:19:15 PM by shoboni

Of all the Captain America pics, I like that last one best...the contrast of him in regular fatigues with the shield is better than in the CA suit, which says "superhero" more than Super-Soldier.

I like that one to because it clearly shows both sides of the trope where a lot of exampled suggested seem to be missing the "solider" portion.

The uniform says solider, but the shield broadcasts we're looking at Captain American before he went from GI to super hero.

edited 19th Mar '17 6:38:22 PM by shoboni

^^^ "Famous enough to avoid JAFAAC problems" is, like, Jesus, or Mickey Mouse. And even then only some problems: for example, the page image for The Dragon isn't just a picture of Darth Vader, it's a picture of him kneeling.

_v ...

edited 20th Mar '17 1:21:58 AM by rodneyAnonymous

Captain America is about at that level, especially with the MCU bringing out The Avengers into the Mainstream, non-comic media.

8.1 is my preferred of the Caps, unsure of how visible the other soldiers will be at wiki-size but the front lines scene and gun in hand say soldier enough to me. Super-Soldier and Super Hero aren't mutually exclusive after all.

To a lot of people, especially outside USA, Captain America is some overpatrioticly coloured dude with a round shield. He's not even close to famous enough to avoid JAFAAC. I'm not sure any of the suggestions of him illustrate the trope particularly well. The ones in 5 are better.

Those aren't even the super solider trope, they're mutants created by a virus one of the vaults was experimenting on people with.

...then they continued infecting humans on their to increase their population.

edited 20th Mar '17 2:48:42 PM by shoboni

Good images are not necessarily good examples. While I agree, now that I think about it, 5.1 isn't particularly illustrative of Super-Soldier (looks more like a mutant), I think 5.2 illustrates both the "super" and "soldier" elements and doesn't really look that much like a "mutant."

I mean, it doesn't need to be an example. How to Pick a Good Image: "the part of the page above the "examples" line is for explanation and related tropes, the part below is for examples."

edited 20th Mar '17 5:44:36 PM by WaterBlap

Problem is the Super Mutants aren't an example of this trope.

edited 20th Mar '17 5:03:50 PM by shoboni

They're listed as an example, and not being an example isn't a problem anyway.

edited 20th Mar '17 9:30:34 PM by AnotherDuck

I'd say it it.

I'd also say it's highly debatable if they are one.

It's a problem, but not an automatic disqualification or anything, few problems are. Just moves it along the good/bad gradient.

Hypothetically, a good illustration with a bad example might be better than a bad illustration with a good example.

edited 20th Mar '17 11:43:09 PM by rodneyAnonymous

I've removed the clock since we've had some productive discussion. Should we crowner this? I'm not really seeing consensus on anything.

I think a better example would be Captain America.

The comic Über has a lot of examples◊ where normal soldiers are contrasted with empowered ones. The results are typically messy.

Also, Project ReGenesis◊ from the Tiberium game series.

edited 23rd Mar '17 6:37:31 AM by Morgenthaler

I think a crowner would be best for now. Here.