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BrokenEye True False Prophet from Beyond the Stars Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#1: Dec 8th 2016 at 7:27:35 PM

Basically ideas for new Punk Punk subgenres that don't exist but should. For example:

Cabinet Punk: Set in a gloomy, off-kilter German Expressionism-inspired world of madness, shadows and fog, particularly based on the style of The Cabinet Of Dr Caligari. About halfway between Gothic Punk and Diesel Punk, with a very noir atmosphere, fewer right angles, and a light dusting of Magical Realism. Most interpretations of Gotham City would probably fall firmly in this catagory, as would Terry Gilliam's Brazil and the bulk of Tim Burton's portfolio. Woody Allen's Shadows and Fog would be a toned down version of Cabinet Punk, and Psychonauts is a mixture of Cabinet Punk and Atom Punk.

edited 8th Dec '16 7:27:43 PM by BrokenEye

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#2: May 9th 2017 at 4:46:44 AM

Punk Punk. A loathsome society that is powered by the blood of The Quincy Punk. Unwilling to give their blood, more and more punks rebel, giving the technocrat overlords a steady supply of punk blood, if they can catch it.

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#3: May 9th 2017 at 10:36:34 AM

Space punk? Actually, we'd need something to divide between The Martian and The Expanse from things like Guardians Of The Galaxy.

Maybe the harder sci-fi is space punk and softer is Star Punk?

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#4: May 9th 2017 at 1:29:40 PM

I thought of NASA-Punk as a word for the general aesthetic of those kinds of hard science works, with environments that are clean yet cobbled together, as well as pragmatic, often awkward designs that put function over form.

I for one am waiting for Y2K-punk to become a thing. The dawn of the millennium has a generally untapped aesthetic that could make it a viable counterpart to Vaporwave. [A E S T H E T I C INTENSIFIES]

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#5: May 9th 2017 at 4:31:26 PM

[up][up] It's called: Rocketpunk.

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#6: May 9th 2017 at 8:22:06 PM

I propose a sub genre call, eco punk, something of a mix genre between solar punk and bio punk using plants and green thumb.

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DeusDenuo Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#7: May 9th 2017 at 8:49:08 PM

Bakufu Punk. Whereas Gintama is set in a world where aliens took the place of the Black Ships, I imagine Bakufu Punk as being more post-apocalyptic...

There was a war, where two opposing factions of aliens wiped each other out on Earth. The Humans were the only real survivors, and are forced to rebuild. After what's basically the Sengoku Era, the world has settled down a bit and resembles MadMax, only rebuilding properly and with a strong Bakufu aesthetic.

Guns are rare because A) Magic is fairly common and B) metal is rare, with copper and iron in particular being greatly depleted during the war and most other useful ones being uncommon. (Ceramics take their place. Some war-end weapons caused supplies of zircon to be easily accessible to miners, and so zirconium dioxide is common.)

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zell_insomniac I don't sleep from hardy Jewish stock Since: May, 2017 Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
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#8: May 11th 2017 at 9:49:11 PM

Cassettepunk. Maxed out analog technology clashes with the newly arrived digital revolution. Monochrome, green phosphor screens with single font command line interfaces are the norm. Computers whir, buzz, and feel mechanical, but they still can still take America to the moon. Analog electronics have progressed to the point of near Magitek. The social elite drink cocktails in shag carpeted nuclear dirigibles. Office workers embezzle funds by transferring them to an audio cassette and playing it into a phone line to a Swiss bank. Oh, and the Cold War is still going on.

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#9: May 13th 2017 at 2:32:04 PM

Renaissance Punk, Leonardo da vinchy's designs work easily and efficiently inspiring more people to follow in his footseps. At the same time art is developed to a point that it becomes a tangible force that can impact peoples minds.

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PresidentStalkeyes The Best Worst Psychonaut from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#10: May 16th 2017 at 11:42:01 AM

[up][up]That reminds me, I remember a relative of mine talking about the style of 60s/70s sci-fi - things like Thunderbirds and the original Westworld, for example - and it sounds a bit like what you're describing, what with all the tape-reel computers, Cold War-era spycraft and bobcuts existing alongside hyperrealistic robots, lasers and giant, nuclear-powered luxury airliners.

Maybe Jazzpunk would fit into that sort of aesthetic, though the eponymous Jazzpunk may be the same thing or similar. Essentially Cyberpunk as envisioned by a writer from the 1960s. Perhaps even some of the James Bond movies from that era would fit - the famous high-power laser they try to cut him in half with comes to mind, and that's not even going into Moonraker.

edited 16th May '17 11:49:40 AM by PresidentStalkeyes

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BrokenEye True False Prophet from Beyond the Stars Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#11: May 21st 2017 at 2:15:51 PM

That sounds more like Raygun Gothic or Atompunk, but the line is awfully fine some of the time.

edited 21st May '17 2:17:47 PM by BrokenEye

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#12: May 21st 2017 at 9:05:19 PM

True, but I think Atompunk and Raygun Gothic take their cues from the 50s (though admittedly, the only example I have is Fallout), while what I'm thinking of is much more influenced by the 60s and 70s. But as you say, there's probably a very fine line.

I can see something 70s-styled being distinctive enough to be its own subgenre, though, serving as a bridging point between the 50s and occasionally 60s trappings of Atompunk, and the 80s/90s-inspired Cassette Futurism.

Think of Atompunk, but replace the stylish tailfin-sporting cars with giant muscle cars or boxy sedans the size of battleships, make the cops much more willing to not play by the rules, tone down the anti-communism a little in favour of political corruption, have running themes of social progress going backwards and its adherents rapidly losing hope (think Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas), and disco is not dead. If it's set in the U.K., add lots of strikes and literal punks to that list. :V

edited 21st May '17 9:06:44 PM by PresidentStalkeyes

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#13: May 22nd 2017 at 2:29:47 AM

Hydropunk. In a world where it is covered by water, pirates and navies dominate the seas with ships powered by the water-powered engine.

The water-powered engine is a engine where water is vaporized in high temperatures using gas collected from biomass.

People live in floating cities and underwater fortresses withe pirates representing freedom while the navy represents order.

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#14: Sep 15th 2017 at 1:24:49 PM

Anthropunk or sometimes Furrypunk/Zoopunk that uses Anthromorphic animals or Petting-Zoo People play a predominant role in the story no matter where or how they become exist in the first place nor play a part of the story itself.

The setting in uses in [maybe pure Science fiction] may use biotechnology to justify of how they become evolve into humanoid or some [in some fantastic genres like Low Fantasy or Magical Realism] ''Mystical'' explain of how normal animal becomes human-like like The Secret of NIMH as a good example.

Edited by Franco-America2018 on Mar 10th 2019 at 9:31:48 AM

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#15: Sep 16th 2017 at 12:25:31 PM

  • Lace Punk / Baroque Punk: This punk genre reminds a bit of Clock Punk , altough it is set in the Cavalier Years and it is set in the 1600s and 1700s. This technology is elegant, experimental and usualy rare. It is powered by the new and fancy inventions & discoveries of the time, like magnetism & electricity. Hower, magi-tek and eternal motion engines show up as well.

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#16: Dec 16th 2017 at 12:42:09 PM

Netpunk: (name is WIP) The scenarios would be somewhat similar to the ones in Cyberpunk in feel (grim, urban, decadent, and maybe a chance of rain), but the technology and urban landscape will be closer to the one we see today; The disappearance of flying cars and heaven-scrapers will leave space for Netpunk's real focus: smartphones and cellular technology.

Netpunk is usually set in the near-future, exploring the possible developments in applications, and their social implications. iBoy and Black Mirror would be prime examples.

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#17: Jan 24th 2018 at 4:38:20 AM

Pastel/Hipster-Punk: A 90s-10s world influenced by 50s-60s nostalgia a la Twin Peaks amped up with loads of satirical/dark humor and violence contrasted with loads of Scenery Porn. A Crapsaccharine World where people are either Stepford Smilers, secretly psychopaths or just plain old-timey rigid. The protagonist is typically a Misanthrope Supreme or a rebel without a cause hellbent on raising hell, due to being raised in such a peaceful/conformist environment, or worse, raised by Abusive Parents and as such decide to spite their upbringing by engaging in acts of debauchery.

Basically if Garth Ennis/Warren Ellis collaborated with Wes Anderson or Terrence Malick to make a piece of media, this would be it.

Expect Shoegaze, Doo-wop, Post-Rock, Jazz, Dream Pop or Indie Pop soundtracks to compliment the atmosphere.

The closest examples to this are probably Fargo, The End of the F***ing World or I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore.

edited 24th Jan '18 4:55:12 AM by YouSitTightBuddy

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SomethingRandom113 That Friend Nobody Likes from R'lyeh, the Pacific Ocean Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#18: Jan 25th 2018 at 5:09:04 PM

Rust Punk: A Post-Apocalyptic / Industrial Ghetto world with massive amounts of rusting scrap metal all over the place and an overall atmosphere of industrial decay. Reds, oranges, and browns are central to the aesthetic, but it has an atmosphere just as oppressive as a City Noir. Scavenger World is pretty much a guaranteed, even if the story isn't set After the End, Firearms will probably be either too decayed or, if not set After the End, too difficult for the residents of the Industrial Ghetto (due to large pricetags, license laws, etc.,) to obtain, to be commonly available, so expect a lot of Improvised Weapons in the Rust Punk world. Metal is usually rather common, so don't expect scrap metal to be as valuable as other pre-apocalypse/whatever commodities. Expect a lot of ragged clothes (and not in the fanservice-y way), Pauper Patches, and bandages that used to be clothing (my rust-punk protagonist has a piece of shirt for an eyepatch). Even if not post-apocalyptic, expect a general atmosphere of lawlessness and people organized into family / clan societies that rarely intermingle but often squabble. The protagonist is usually a scavenger who doesn't belong to any group at all (or isn't welcome among them anymore) and spends large amounts of time. Full on Crapsack World is common, but some families / tribes / clans are actually inversions of Crapsaccharine World. If an upper class exists (I.E. the world is not After the End or there are still a (relatively) Shining City with walls that refuses to let those unfortunate enough to be outside in), expect them to be either the villains or, at the very least, Acceptable Targets (though rarely in a Butt-Monkey-y way).

[up][up][up][up][up] you mean Ocean Punk?

edited 25th Jan '18 5:09:46 PM by SomethingRandom113

Umm... so, I was here, I guess. If I wasn't, someone hacked my account. So, yeah.
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#19: Jan 30th 2018 at 12:57:20 AM

Solar Punk. Basically where green energy and eco-techture run the world. Its bright and open and green. Think rooftop gardens and farms in skyscrapers. I have no idea just what stories could be told in such a setting but its such a great counterpoint to the traditional cyberpunk settings of Blade Runner and Shadow Runner.

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#20: Jan 30th 2018 at 5:08:52 AM

[up] Dude, that already exists. P.S. When you talk about "Shadow Runner", do you mean Shadowrun?

edited 30th Jan '18 5:10:12 AM by SomethingRandom113

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#21: Feb 2nd 2018 at 11:02:17 AM

Bronze Punk: Sort of an 'intermediary' genre between Stone Punk and Sandal Punk; I realise that the latter tends to be set in either the Bronze Age or the Iron Age, but emphasis seems to be placed on larger ancient civilizations like Greece, Rome, Egypt and so forth.

Bronze Punk, however, deals with smaller societies and takes place earlier in history. It features typically tribal societies that are in the process of transitioning from the older, Stone Age nomadic hunter-gatherer model into a more modern, sedentary and agrarian Bronze Age one.

Emphasis is placed on generational conflict, as the old seeks to preserve its ways against the tide of the new, with plenty of modern-day parallels to be made. This is reflected both in large conflicts between older societies and newer ones (think of an archetypal Barbarian Tribe Vs. a Babylon-esque rising civilisation), and smaller internal conflicts between the older traditionalists and the younger reformers. The protagonist can come from either side of the fence and will likely come to sympathise with the other side, even as they oppose more extreme elements from both their own side and the opposition.

On the more fantastical end of the scale, the advent of bronze makes it seem like anything is possible, and there's lots of experimentation, with medieval or even modern technology being developed with simple bronze tools and parts, but at the same time subverting Applied Phlebotinum as no-one truly understands its limitations just yet. Expect someone in-story to lampshade this, as they acknowledge that one day all this fancy metal will be nothing but garbage.

edited 2nd Feb '18 11:07:19 AM by PresidentStalkeyes

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#22: Feb 5th 2018 at 1:11:36 AM

So like Mesopotamians and folks like that? I can get behind that. Those dudes don't get nearly enough love.

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#23: Feb 24th 2018 at 11:40:22 AM

what in the world happened to mine punk? : ( I could swear I saw it on one of the punk lists floating around the internet. basically, carbide & acetylene based power sources, that resemble carbide lamps, power most hand devices, with, the exception of those powered by wet cell, acid batteries, refilled from acid flows in the mine. most tech is based around the combination of a scsrd , & a carbide lamp, to make things like an acetylene torch , a pressurizer for a piston jackhammer, a food cooking method, &, a signal lamp. the clothing resembles a combo of mine gear, & hazard gear. While, all transport is pretty much done through stationary engines, that raise / lower carts, via pulley system. : ( I could have sworn the source cited at least a few novels worth of mine punk / minecart punk / pickax punk.

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#24: Jun 5th 2018 at 12:12:33 AM

The Freedom Planet games are set in what vaguely resembles feudal China and Japan but have technology that's either slightly behind ours or slightly ahead, depending on the field. This is a land of pagodas, martial artists living in secluded areas, bamboo forests, and ninjas—but at the same time, the main characters know how to operate a floppy disk, they've harnessed electricity and mass communication at a scale comparable to late 20th-century Earth (one character introduced in the second game is a TV news reporter), their major cities have modern-style urban planning (but with stylistic architectural elements of feudal China and Japan such as paper doors, roofs with the upturned points, and Chinese lanterns) including highways, robots are commonplace and used for mundane purposes such as vacuuming and construction, the civilizations are barely on the verge of interstellar space travel, and the ninjas travel on motocross bikes.

What would this one be called? Gongpunk, maybe? Pagodapunk?

edited 5th Jun '18 12:13:30 AM by ZombieAladdin

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#25: Jun 26th 2018 at 4:19:12 PM

Colony-Punk: a futuristic setting, usually hard-ish but can go soft Sci-Fi, where the haphazard, chaotic, and frenetic efforts of various parties of humans (or other entities) to colonize other worlds or distant, far-off places results in a mix-match of cultural, religious and aesthetic styles and a fair amount of Schizo Tech, given that most colonization efforts probably have to start over from a more primitive state of civilization. All tech not related to daily survival and reproduction gets cast aside, at least, the tech that requires a more or less permanent industrial base to support and manufacture it. Then, hundreds of years later or more, civilization and industry redevelop, aided by Lost Technology and the preserved knowledge that the ancestors of the colonists had high-tech like spaceships and computers. Conflict usually occurs when an older civilization shows up to "claim" one of its distant colonies, who have had many, many years to develop their own distinct, cultural identities.

Series with significant numbers of Human Aliens and parallel civilizations, like the Noon Universe and Star Trek The Original Series, could probably count as well.


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