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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#1: Dec 1st 2016 at 6:13:24 AM

This image did not get enough consensus in the Image Suggestion thread. Other ideas?

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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#3: Dec 15th 2016 at 7:18:04 AM

XKCD example is just text; the visuals add nothing. Hardly worth considering, really.

That said, for a trope like this, one probably needs at least some text to show what characters were blaming, so here's the SMBC example:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/falsecause.gif

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
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#5: Dec 15th 2016 at 8:09:31 AM

How about the "number of pirates/Global temperatures" graph or one of the other false correlation graphs that are floating around out there now? (I'm personally partial to the "rate of margarine consumption/divorce rate in Maine" one — it's a nearly perfect correlation.) There's an entire site of them here

edited 15th Dec '16 8:09:43 AM by Madrugada

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#6: Dec 15th 2016 at 9:02:37 AM

Whoa. This one is a nearly perfect correlation:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/dogdsrevenues.jpg

Damn. Unreadable at wiki size. :( can anything be done about that? Here's the permalink: http://tylervigen.com/view_correlation?id=28958 )

edited 15th Dec '16 9:04:49 AM by Madrugada

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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#7: Dec 16th 2016 at 5:45:54 PM

Alternatively, a less-bulky version of the SMBC idea...

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/whatdthedarknessdotoyourarm.png

edited 16th Dec '16 5:47:58 PM by neoYTPism

Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#8: Dec 17th 2016 at 6:39:38 AM

Wouldn't the comic example fit more the comedic trope Correlation/Causation Gag?

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#9: Dec 18th 2016 at 11:00:43 PM

From my understanding; and please correct me if I'm wrong; false cause is when someone misinterprets the cause and effect relationship, and correlation/causation is more specifically when someone wrongly assumes that A causes B; the latter being a more specific form of the former. Making the SMBC one an example of both.

I went with a webcomic because it seems like a dialogue-dependent trope, as I doubt facial expressions alone could quite convey how characters assign blame. I could use TV/movie/game screenshots and caption them, but as far as I'm aware that tends to be frowned on.

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#10: Jan 1st 2017 at 7:52:04 AM

Bumping after 2 weeks... this is near the bottom of the thread list.

In this thread, movie screenshots with speech balloons edited into them, though they weren't picked for the page, were considered a valid option. Would they be a valid option in this thread as well?

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#11: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:44:40 AM

[up] If there seems to be absolutely no alternative, I guess so.

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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#12: Jan 15th 2017 at 4:46:56 PM

Well, it's been a couple weeks. Should we resort to adding speech balloons to non-comics examples?

Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#13: Jan 15th 2017 at 5:21:47 PM

I could go with 7 if there aren't other suggestions.

edited 15th Jan '17 5:22:20 PM by Gosicrystal

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#14: Jan 15th 2017 at 7:02:20 PM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/piratesvstemp_9.png


edited 15th Jan '17 8:13:10 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#17: Jan 16th 2017 at 1:42:48 AM

The trope page for False Cause says that if this concept is played for laughs then it's Correlation/Causation Gag.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#18: Jan 16th 2017 at 6:50:15 AM

Part of me wants to point out the graph is inaccurate, as piracy is actually more common nowadays. than it was centuries ago :-P

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#19: Jan 16th 2017 at 7:20:21 AM

We also have this graph I found on Cracked.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#20: Jan 16th 2017 at 7:22:39 AM

I love the cracked one coz it even includes sources for its numbers.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#21: Jan 16th 2017 at 7:23:11 AM

^ But how do we know Organic Food is the false cause?

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#22: Jan 16th 2017 at 12:31:32 PM

[up] Eh, it's an "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence" sort of thing. I prefer the pirates one for being so ludicrously over the top that it's more obvious it's a false cause.

Also, if that's a Cracked graph, why doesn't it have the Cracked watermark on it? Was it cropped out? Are we even allowed to do that?

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#23: Jan 16th 2017 at 1:26:19 PM

Though I'd prefer the Pirate one if the Pirate numbers were correct :-P

Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#24: Jan 16th 2017 at 2:01:12 PM

[up] Shouldn't matter. It's not like it's a requirement for a graph to depict reality with utmost detail. When coming up with a trope image, that is (if you were gonna present that in a conference, it's a different matter).

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#25: Jan 16th 2017 at 6:16:53 PM

@22: I found it on Cracked, but they didn't make it. They got it from Imgur, apparently.

edited 16th Jan '17 6:17:16 PM by Adept


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