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Probably would've been cheaper and faster as a practical effect. Build an armature, conceal it with hair. Rig up the actors so that they're the ones moving, and just pulling the hair along. Might look a bit cheesy but I doubt it'd be any worse than what they've got now.
These *are* the non-mutants from Agents of SHIELD. The original reason those characters showed up on AOS was to set up this show, back when it was still going to be a movie.
edited 30th Aug '17 3:29:36 AM by Unsung
Let's compare and contrasts folks.
Early reactions:
https://fansided.com/2017/08/29/marvels-inhumans-receiving-surprisingly-positive-reactions/
After seeing all the images and the trailers for Marvel’s Inhumans, we never thought the series would be good. In fact, we believed it was going to be an absolute train wreck of a show. However, to our surprise, it seems it may not be as bad as we thought it was going to be. In fact, it might actually be good. Some early reactions have hit the web after the premiere last night, and they’re positive.
This is refreshing, to say the least. When we first heard an Inhumans TV series was happening, we were very excited. Although we would’ve preferred Marvel going the film route with the Marvel Cinematic Universe, we could see why a TV series would work. To reiterate, we’re still a bit skeptical since it doesn’t look very good at all. We’re hoping once we see it, we can actually agree with the positive feedback.
Check out some of the reactions below:
Vs. In depth reviews
https://www.newsarama.com/36221-review-marvel-s-inhumans-the-imax-experience.html
Well, at least it looked grand on paper.
4/10
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/inhumans/review/a836909/inhumans-tv-marvel-review/
At this stage, it feels as though some are almost willing the show to fail, which is unfair. But, ultimately, the hard truth is that if you were hoping for Inhumans to defy expectations and prove the haters wrong, then you're going to come away disappointed.
"The weakest entry in the MCU to date"
http://fandom.wikia.com/articles/marvels-inhumans-review-funny-but-for-all-the-wrong-reasons
1/5
I got the impression that it is pretty middle of the road. Some people will really like it despite some of its flaws, others, especially those who want it to fail, will hate it. But in the end, this doesn't really matter, the question is if the ratings will be good enough for ABC.
edited 4th Sep '17 11:43:50 PM by Swanpride
Destroyer of Worlds
I'm hearing this is getting absolutely trashed by a majority of people.
"You can't change the world without getting your hands dirty."
It doesn't seem to be a particularly good adaptation of the Inhumans and dishing out for the Imax is apparently not worth it. But there seems to be one group which likes it, though I haven't quite figured out yet what taste the show hits.
The people who enjoyed Suicide Squad, maybe. They were a thing.
I suspect the CW style of storytelling, but I would need to see the show to pinpoint it. One thing for sure, if Marvel proper really wants its own version of sewing Deadpool's mouth shut, I would rather them having it in a TV show than in one of the movies.
edited 6th Sep '17 10:51:06 AM by Swanpride
I guess this means that it won't replace the x-men.
Foreign Troper
They already tried that in the comics and failed.
It was quite a shock to open up Rotten Tomatoes and see the Tomatometer at zero for a Marvel series.
I was hoping this would be good. I'm kind of nervous that it means the MCU is losing its touch. I'll still check it out; TBH, if I don't like it, it's not that big a deal. At least there is still AoS.
Did some of the budget for AoS go to Inhumans? I heard that the former got its budget cut...
I liked it better when Questionable Casting was called WTH Casting Agency
Kind of silly to say "is Marvel losing its touch?" not one month after the very well-received The Defenders (2017).
edited 6th Sep '17 6:21:52 PM by Gaon
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
The Head of the Hydra
I think this series is rather separate like in production from the other Marvel shows.
Even then the end-result of the shows quality makes sense if this show really is a rushed forward mess due to being another attempt by Pearlmutter to replace the X-Men with the Inhumans.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
People were naysaying the Inhumans since as soon as it was announced to be by Scott Buck, just as they were with Iron Fist. I think the onus is on him and less on Marvel's quality control, as they were still releasing other well-received entries in that time and since then.
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For some reason I thought this was being held off until November. Maybe that was AOS? When does this go to cable? September's kind of a dumping ground month, so they might just want to sweep this under the rug as quietly as possible, specifically so that people forget about it and don't hold it against the MCU as a whole.
...So has anyone here actually seen it in theatres? Planning to? Because yeah, I'm not.
The Head of the Hydra
This is the same man who could not come up with a reason to put Iron Fist in a mask & costume despite the simple practical logic that it would protect his identity.
So taking that into regard it makes sense why the outfits on this show aren't so good.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
Agents of SHIELD Season 4 got great reviews (and two-thirds of it aired in 2017 so I'm counting it), The Defenders was more mixed but got fairly decent reviews, and The Runaways is getting pretty good press so it might turn out pretty good. Really the only two shows from Marvel's TV side that are getting bad reviews are the ones with Scott Buck behind the helm, and I can tell you why: because he makes cheap, easy to produce crap on time and on budget, quality be damned. They needed Iron Fist to be rushed out to set him up for Defenders (and keep in mind it was originally supposed to come out before Luke Cage but got pushed back) so they rushed Iron Fist out with him behind it, leaving us with a shitty, poorly edited, poorly acted series with an awful actor in the lead role. With Inhumans, Ike Perlmutter's delusions of pushing them as the next X-Men led to him wanting it out in the cheapest, easiest, and soonest way possible, so who else to turn to than the guy who shat out Iron Fist on the cheap and quick? You can get it quick and cheap alright, but you can't get it good.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
I wish people would stop blaming Finn Jones. He did great whenever he interacted with the other Defenders, so I do think that he can hold his own with better material for his character. And he is already training for Season 2, so he obviously takes this seriously.
Anyway, while I do defend Rotten Tomatoes when it comes to movies, I think the website is utterly inadequate when it comes to judging TV shows, due to the ratings being based on only a few episodes. That lead to Luke Cage being totally overrated, due to the show having its best episodes in the beginning, and Iron Fist being underrated, because that show had its best episodes towards the end. The only thing RT can tell us now is if the I Max showing is worth it and obviously it is not. The show itself we can judge when we have seen all episodes. But even if it is bad, it is hardly the end of the world. The Inhumans will just decide to hide on the moon again and there they will remain until someone decides to do a soft reboot with them. Worked with the Hulk too, after all.
Otherwise I think the Netflix shows start showing some strain, it feels as if someone in the background is pulling money out of them, and Inhumans seemed to have similar problems. Even Ao S is now forced to work on a smaller budget, though in this case I trust the show runners to make it work, because they always manage to put the money where it was needed and sometimes even make something better out of the lack of it (most notable putting the budget towards the face of Hive in season 3, but saving the money for an exploding spaceship by just showing it vanishing from the radar instead).
I don't have any proof, but my eye is going towards Perlmutter....but I also have the feeling that Disney is about to interfere with Marvel and by extension Marvel TV. So the problem in the TV division should be solved soon.
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
I blame Finn Jones because he's a bad leading actor. He's an alright supporting actor but an atrocious leading actor. And no, the back half of Iron Fist's episodes were not good, they were at best slightly better than the first half of episodes. If they had been reviewed they would've made the show's rating go up maybe three points at most. I rag on Finn Jones because he was a bad choice for the role.
As for Inhumans, it's still gonna be awful. I have no faith in a show run by a cheap hack to be good, so why should I have any hope for it?
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Bad writing and directing can make any actor's performance horrible. There were scenes in the early episodes of Iron Fist that I actually liked, particularly any scene Danny and Joy were interacting, due to Danny being rather chill and relaxed whenever he's around her. He also explains how he became the Iron Fist to her in a decent enough way so she could understand, like leaving out the part where he had to fight a dragon and just describing it as getting an important job. But for some reason the writers for Defenders just couldn't have him act a bit more tactical and leave out all the mystical dragon stuff whenever he tells someone about the Iron Fist. So yeah, writers and Scott Buck are ultimately to blame here.
edited 7th Sep '17 1:00:14 PM by clockworkboy
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Defenders is an example for lazy writing and bad directing. The show is entirely carried by the actors and that includes Finn Jones. He has to sell a lot of stupid sh... in the show.
Anyway, Inhumans...one reviewer said that the show is ultimately mediocre and that is a kill-shot for it because we don't forgive mediocrity from Marvel. I guess kind of like we don't forgive it of Pixar or the Disney Animation studios either.
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
Alright, it's on. And...yeesh, this is already off to a not too good start. I'll give the show credit, the CGI for Medusa's hair actually does look decent but the whig still sucks. I'm already kinda digging Black Bolt's actor but the setpieces are so fucking crap that it feels like they just got some leftover sets from Agents of SHIELD.
Lockjaw looks decent though.
And uh, is Maximus even supposed to be the bad guy though? He's actually making good sense here, just saying.
edited 29th Sep '17 5:21:23 PM by AdricDePsycho
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Not really a lord of anything
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
Karnak is a fucking douche, I hate him. So far Crystal is boring and the only interesting thing about her is Lockjaw. All of this is boring except for this stupid insistence that Maximus is super evil when he's honestly being somewhat reasonable. I feel sorry for the guy. Can't say much about Gorgon other than he's got one genuinely funny line that did make me chuckle a bit.
Wait, hold on, Maximus is being kinda creepy now. Dude, stop hitting on your brother's wife.
Okay so that chick killing that dude was sloppily done. So far this is still fucking boring and uneventful as shit.
edited 29th Sep '17 5:42:29 PM by AdricDePsycho
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Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
Okay so...this got a bit better just now, what the heck? Action was kinda sloppy but suddenly Karnak and Gorgon got a lot better with these action sequences. Maximus though, starting to wonder why the early reviews were saying he was more sympathetic than Black Bolt and Medusa. Unless it's to do with some edits they did between the IMAX release and the TV release.
edited 29th Sep '17 5:50:01 PM by AdricDePsycho
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Take some budget from the non-mutants of Agents of SHIELD who nobody cares about anyway.
edited 30th Aug '17 3:02:20 AM by Forenperser
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