Complaining: Eight Deadly Words

As it stands, Eight Deadly Words is mostly just a collection of quotes from Internet critics about different works. The Web Original section is outright redundant on account of also just being Caustic Critic opinions on works in the other categories (as opposed to critiques of actual Web Originals).

I think, given the nature of this trope, it requires an Example Sectionectomy. It's a valid trope, but I feel the description is all it needs with all examples confined to the appropriate YMMV tabs of whatever works ends up earning it.

edited 5th May '16 1:57:04 PM by TheGunheart

I second that. It's literally impossible to write an example without complaining on account of the fact that writing an example requires you to explain why the Work left you so apathetic that you stopped giving a shit. It is, by nature, a complaining trope.

Previous TRS thread : https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1413351302045217200

Perhaps the existing examples should go to their respective webshow and critic pages? "One critic said this about a movie or game" really doesn't feel like an actual example for the page itself.

I think a big part of the problem here is that all these supposedly "in universe" examples aren't actually in-universe, with a couple of exceptions:

• Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory under Film. (Except I'm not entirely convinced this example actually is an example).
• Mystery Science Theater 3000 under Live TV. (Fair example.)
• both examples in the Theatre folder.

If we pruned the example list down to those (others are welcome to check my work, of course), it would be a definite improvement. But that's barely enough examples to sustain a trope. (I haven't checked any links.)

I can think of a couple of possible examples involving fictitious critics of ficticious creators, but I'd have to double-check the references to make sure I'm remembering correctly. I think this might be salvageable if we actually enforced the in-universe-only rule, but it might need a run through YKTTW to collect actual examples.

I realize I was first linked to this under a work's YMMV tab and only now did I notice it's not actually cataloged as a YMMV trope, even though it definitely is since it's an Audience Reaction. I just added it to the index since it even explicitly says its an Audience Reaction in the description.

First - that's a separate article to Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy? - which is what the Eight Deadly Words describe (although I can do it in seven words -" I do not care about these people. " six if you allow contractions.) I thought it was a redirect to there.

Actually looking at the two, I now see the difference. One is about Jerkass protagonists that you either don't care about or actively wish they were killed by the monster. The other is about a setting being so dark you don't care about the conflict because it's Black-and-Black Morality.

Willy Wonka doesn't count. The fact he could be a member of The Fair Folk, especially the Johnny Depp incarnation, or a factory owner who is fed up of people ignoring health and safety warnings or both. He does warn them 3 times. It's not that he doesn't care - he warned them and they did it anyway.

edited 6th May '16 3:14:27 AM by TheOneWhoTropes

Yeah, Willy Wonka isn't an example. He's simply a misanthrope. This is supposed to be an audience reaction, so anything outside a review show can't really count as "in-universe", unless the characters are talking about a Show Within a Show.

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