maxwellsilver
Since: Sep, 2011
#27: Aug 20th 2016 at 10:38:26 PM
For what it's worth, This Index Is Not an Example lists the trope namer as a partial credit.
- General Ripper — General Jack D. Ripper of Doctor Strangelove is indeed insane, and he does indeed concoct a scheme to start a nuclear war between the United States and Russia, but he has almost none of the classic markers of the trope. Rather than being a loud, brash, jingoistic madman who gleefully sends his troops to die in battle, he's a quiet, soft-spoken man who successfully manages to hide his mental instability from everyone else in the military, and he spends most of the movie keeping his troops safely fortified in a military base.
Leaper
Since: May, 2009
#28: Aug 20th 2016 at 11:51:15 PM
So we have proof that at least one troper understood this trope as "insane evil military man" without reading the description. Not a surprise. :)
#29: Dec 30th 2016 at 10:51:55 AM
Bumping.
Halper's Law: as the length of an online discussion of minority groups increases, the probability of "SJW" or variations being used = 1.
#30: Jan 12th 2017 at 5:58:36 PM
@neothing: Probably. Really this is a family of tropes organized on two axes:
- Motivations and how they affect the characters (current categories are "loves fighting", "obsessed with 'the enemy'", "other").
- Position in the army (not necessarily exact rank, we could be dealing with a Fantastic Rank System, and Insane Admiral applies to land force generals or air force/Space Fighter squadron leaders as well as naval fleet commanders). This dictates how much authority they have, the kind of damage they can do, and what it's going to take to bring them down.
edited 12th Jan '17 5:59:26 PM by StarSword
#31: Feb 13th 2017 at 7:54:27 AM
Clock is ticking.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
#32: Feb 17th 2017 at 6:37:36 AM
Clock expired; closing.
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What if artistic license creates a mismatch between the character's stated rank and the character's role in the story?
EDIT: I guess what I'm saying is, wouldn't how to categorize such examples be less blurry if we merged tropes that were similar but referred to a different rank?
edited 7th Aug '16 4:56:32 PM by neoYTPism