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justanid Since: Jan, 2010
#1: Aug 1st 2015 at 9:18:35 AM

The image is from an Aarabic translation of De Materia Medica by Dioscorides.

While the two guys discussing herbs could totally be assassins, ninjas, or drug-lords, it's more likely that they're herbalists. I'd like to suggest the first Hashshashin grandmaster Hassan-i Sabbah or a shot of the Masyaf castle from Assassin's Creed (one without the game's trademark, fictional flags).

edited 1st Aug '15 9:19:07 AM by justanid

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#2: Aug 1st 2015 at 9:00:10 PM

The current is relying on the caption, for sure. The guy on the horse isn't bad; the castle would rely on a caption as well.

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#3: Aug 2nd 2015 at 6:22:04 PM

1.1 seems workable, but 1.2 looks just like a generic castle.

For the sake of having more options, though, here: [1] [2] [3]

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#4: Aug 2nd 2015 at 8:49:49 PM

[up] The first and third are pretty cool.

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#5: Aug 2nd 2015 at 11:26:03 PM

Those definitely show the assassin origin better.

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#6: Aug 3rd 2015 at 1:19:02 AM

3.3 maybe for me.

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justanid Since: Jan, 2010
#7: Aug 3rd 2015 at 4:33:37 AM

I'd say 3.1 is ok, as the crusader in the background isn't fighting the Hashshashin; not 3.2 as it's from some iteration of Lord of the Rings; and not 3.3, as the guy has Ubisoft iconography on his belt.

Found another that looks good by this artist.

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#8: Aug 3rd 2015 at 5:59:17 AM

[up]I don't see why the guy sporting a Ubisoft logo would matter. The Hashshashin were featured in Assassin's Creed, and considering that this is a trope, I thought it'd be good to put a suggestion from a specific work, rather than just random standalone images.

justanid Since: Jan, 2010
#9: Aug 3rd 2015 at 6:56:54 AM

[up]Overlooked that we have a UsefulNotes.The Hashshashin article, so... I'm OK with any of the other suggestions.

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#10: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:04:38 AM

Would the current fit on the UN page? Since it's a page about their historical origin, a historical picture seems appropriate.

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#11: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:09:28 AM

Moving the current to the UN page would work for me.

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#12: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:16:28 AM

I support the movie to Useful Notes; undecided on the various replacements.

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#14: Aug 3rd 2015 at 3:13:09 PM

I don't mind the current image being on the UN image. But in that case, is it alright to use the full-sized version of the pic (as linked in the OP)? The crop in the current pic looks odd to me.

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#15: Aug 3rd 2015 at 3:59:32 PM

Probably better, yes.

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justanid Since: Jan, 2010
#16: Aug 3rd 2015 at 5:31:34 PM

[tdown]I disagree! The current image is completely unrelated to assassins, it's from a medieval Herbalism manuscript!

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#17: Aug 16th 2015 at 9:01:35 AM

Either 3.3 or 3.1 work for me.

[up][up][up]I also think the cropping doesn't look good

edited 16th Aug '15 9:02:14 AM by DeisTheAlcano

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#18: Aug 26th 2015 at 8:09:54 AM

Ok, I'll go with 3.3. for the trope page.

For Useful Notes, here's an example of an Arabic textbook drawing and a European print of the Hashashin at work.

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#19: Aug 26th 2015 at 3:15:08 PM

[up]Hmmm, the first one shows the "Middle East" part more clearly, but the page looks smudged and confusing. The second one shows the assassination better... so I guess I'll go with that.

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#20: Aug 26th 2015 at 4:16:12 PM

The Arabic pic would look great if there wasn't a section torn out that obscures the person being assassinated. With that, I'll go for the European print.

edited 26th Aug '15 4:16:24 PM by Willbyr

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#21: Aug 26th 2015 at 4:54:51 PM

I'm a bit torn between the suggestions but I'll go with the European version.

edited 26th Aug '15 4:55:00 PM by DeisTheAlcano

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#22: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:35:03 AM

European version for me, too.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#23: Aug 29th 2015 at 2:17:33 PM

We're getting ahead of ourselves, given we haven't picked an image for the trope page yet. Crowner for that with all the fictional and artwork examples offered so far.

edited 29th Aug '15 2:17:45 PM by Morgenthaler

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#24: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:53:06 PM

[up] It's hooked, thanks. [tup]

EDIT: I've added the two options from 18.

edited 30th Aug '15 3:54:55 PM by Willbyr

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#25: Aug 30th 2015 at 9:06:59 PM

[up]Isn't the options on 18 for the UsefulNotes.The Hashshashin page though? While the rest is for the trope page?

edited 30th Aug '15 9:08:56 PM by Adept

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