Suggestion: Evil Counterpart.Film

While I was working on suggestions for the image swaps on Arch-Enemy and Evil Counterpart in this thread, I found that the film page for the latter trope also lacked an image. I think I found a good suggestion featuring Elle Driver and the Bride from Kill Bill in rather complementary poses that face each other. Evil Wears Black is definitely a running theme with these characters.

It's a good start for the discussion.

Bump. Suggestions or votes?

I like it.

Good example. Good images. Not sure about the composition.

Is there a shot where the two are actually in the same scene together? I agree with Duck that the composition is lacking.

OP pic is a good starter at least.

Hmm, tricky. Brainstormed a few other ideas, but the only real times Elle Driver and the Bride are in the same frame it's pretty light on the◊ "evil counterpart"◊ part◊.

I'd also rather we use a character that originated in film rather than a comic-inspired one. Tried Godzilla vs Spacegodzilla, but Godzilla is enough of a Horrifying Hero himself that it doesn't really work. Most other suggestions don't have the evil one as Obviously Evil or don't show "counterpart" enough.

The nearest I could find that satisfied all of those demands were two Friendly Sniper vs Cold Sniper examples:

• American Sniper: Mustafa◊ vs Kyle◊
• Enemy at the Gates: Major König◊ vs Vasili Zaitsev◊

edited 22nd Aug '15 6:02:57 AM by Morgenthaler

Can't tell who's supposed to be the good guy.

The Abomination◊ and the Hulk◊ from The Incredible Hulk.

Those both look like scary hulking rage-monsters. And again, if we're going to illustrate the trope in film, ideally we should have a character who originated in film.

That said, I took another look at the other Bride/Elle composite shot◊. Hero and villain directly mirror each other and Elle's eyepatch is perhaps enough of an Evil Clothing hint by itself. Pending better suggestions I think it could work, possibly with the middle two eye close-ups removed.

edited 22nd Aug '15 8:02:54 AM by Morgenthaler

I don't think the blood helps a whole lot.

Venom and Spiderman? [1]◊

I thought about those two but I think the composition needs some work. How about this?

That's one of the better ones.

That's pretty good.

Yup.

14

I don't see 14 as an improvement over the suggestion in the original post, and I agree with Morgenthaler that if we're going to have media-specific images, it's better not to use characters imported from another medium if it can be avoided.

Here's a decent picture of James Bond and Francisco Scarmanga◊. It doesn't really get the evil part too well (we'd need a decent caption), but it's got the counterpart part down pat.

I can't tell which of those two are supposed to be evil.

The image on Good Colors, Evil Colors actually suit this trope much better. What if we just move that image to here, and find a new pic for that page?

edited 24th Aug '15 6:58:06 PM by Adept

Vader and Luke? Both are the sole lightsaber-wielding warriors in an otherwise tech-based army, and the last remnants of the Jedi order.

In that image, Luke and Vader are both wearing black.

I think it's pretty hard not to mistake which guy is evil when one of them is wearing an intimidating mask and cape. Black clothes does not have to mean evil.

Sure, but the whole point of that page is about good and evil often being Color-Coded for Your Convenience. Their weapons are a different color and there are other Obviously Evil (etc) clues, but the fact that their clothes are the same color seriously undermines it.

edit: Oh I just realized you probably aren't suggesting that image replace the one on Good Colors, Evil Colors, in which case, nevermind, sorry.

edited 26th Aug '15 11:32:02 AM by rodneyAnonymous