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Worlder What? Since: Jan, 2001
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#77: Jan 5th 2016 at 12:22:32 PM

Yeah, but rarely do we get to the point where Earth tells the rest of the galaxy, "If you look at us funny, we'll bomb your planet back to the stone age."

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#78: Apr 27th 2016 at 9:58:31 AM

In case no one saw.

Anyhow, I'm going to watch this one.

It's going to have bad writing and everything that results from it, and I don't expect it to have anywhere over 30% in Rotten Tomatoes.

But goddamn it, it would be one hell of a spectacle in theatre.

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#79: Apr 27th 2016 at 11:09:13 AM

Indeed. Seems like Sequel Escalation is in full force, too. Bigger ship, bigger destruction scenes...

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#80: Apr 27th 2016 at 2:17:35 PM

However you like the movies of Emmerich or Bay, you have to admit there is a visceral experience with how they craft their films. You can feel the impact from the explosions and want to duck your head when they pull off a narrow escape.

I am a little worried that it will go too big, to the point where the scale dwarfs the private battles. The first film averted that problem by ensuring that the big moments are linked to character choice. Russel Case making the decision to ram the giant gun was both emotional and hilarious. And it was an improvement over the original scene, where he was never flying with the jets and flew in with his biplane intending from the start to do a suicide run.

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#81: Apr 27th 2016 at 2:30:16 PM

Yeah, hopefully they won't just drown everything out with big action scenes and neglect the personal moments.

And maybe we'll get another "WELCOME TO ERF!" scene.

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#82: Apr 27th 2016 at 2:39:55 PM

The "Welcome to Erf" meme is weird because he says "Earth" just fine in the scene. And there are people in the comments insisting it used to be "erf" and got changed somehow. Where did it come from? How did the clear "th" sound get missed?

edited 27th Apr '16 2:41:48 PM by Tuckerscreator

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#83: Apr 27th 2016 at 6:32:12 PM

I've never heard of that meme myself, honestly. Didn't even know it was a thing.

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#84: Apr 27th 2016 at 6:45:15 PM

Oh it's a meme alright. To say what I THINK about the meme would be starting fights it's too damned early in the morning to get into. I'm Scottish and even I got the clear, as has been said -th sound at the end of the sentence.

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#85: Apr 27th 2016 at 6:48:04 PM

I might guess that some people hear it as a Mondegreen.

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#86: Apr 27th 2016 at 6:48:35 PM

Perhaps it was a typo?

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#87: Apr 27th 2016 at 6:50:42 PM

I saw something about it on Cracked.com once, and the writer was perplexed too about why people get the line wrong.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#88: Apr 27th 2016 at 8:42:06 PM

Not only that, Will Smith has a fairly neutral American English accent. A trained ear might hear some native pronunciations slip through but he has good diction. The meme seems to imply his supposedly thick Philadelphia (born and raised) accent is what caused the confusion.

edited 27th Apr '16 8:43:10 PM by KJMackley

CitizenH Since: Feb, 2014
#89: Apr 28th 2016 at 8:59:41 AM

[up] Perhaps he picked it up on the playground (where he spend most of his days)?

DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#90: Apr 29th 2016 at 4:52:54 AM

Maybe it's some leet speak thing.

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#91: Apr 29th 2016 at 5:57:46 AM

I will probably catch this one in theaters. I remember the first one very well, and this one looks like it will be on par.

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#92: May 6th 2016 at 9:14:37 PM

Holy crap, the ending theme of the first movie was spectacularly awesome. Like, The Magnificent Seven main theme awesome.

I wish the second one also have awesome music.

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#93: May 14th 2016 at 12:49:05 AM

So US Army recruitment REALLY likes Independence Day.

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#94: May 14th 2016 at 1:32:14 AM

Change of tune on the US military's part there - the last time they were asked for co-operation they made it a condition for Emmerich et al to bin references to Area 51. Emmerich said "Nein!" and the military promptly withdrew all help to the film's makers.

And later realized that that was a shitty decision given the film's popularity and reach to THEIR target audience, and, as far as I know, disciplined the officers involved in saying no to the film makers.

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#95: May 14th 2016 at 12:01:45 PM

The US military is fickle as to giving their support. I remember one World War 2 war movie where the antagonist was the squad's incompetent and cowardly sergeant and he got shot in the back at the end of the movie and the military found that objectionable.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#96: May 15th 2016 at 1:23:17 AM

Ever since the Transformers films (maybe even Stargate SG-1) the military has been more open to helping out productions so long as the film portrays the military overall as noble and competent, rather than getting caught up on minor details like Area 51 or one rogue officer. They still balk at stories that are about exposing conspiracies within the military, but Independence Day was pretty much a love letter to the military and how they would be the only thing capable of defending the planet.

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#97: May 15th 2016 at 1:30:17 AM

Considering the sheer quantity AND quality of US armed forces, though, America is probably better equipped to deal with alien invasion than any other country. [lol]

Of course, you know, against a force that mastered goddamn intergalactic travel it is a moot point, but hey.

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#98: May 15th 2016 at 5:29:00 AM

Any competent alien would shoot us from orbit and have the tracking to find and kill major sectors of armed resistance without risking their own necks. Of course, given our own levels of competence, it's a crapshoot whether aliens who made it here would be sensible enough to do this, or crazy and stupid.

You have to be sensible to make the tools to do it. Child soldiers teach us you don't have to be that way to USE those tools.

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#99: May 15th 2016 at 6:39:06 AM

Doesn't the US military have contingency plans for things like alien invasions and zombie apocalypses?

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#100: May 15th 2016 at 8:39:00 AM

Yeah. And so do the Brits.


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