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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#1: Apr 21st 2015 at 3:33:46 AM

I ask this because there was an issue about there being sinkholes to it in a recap page and I'm curious as to what the thing is.

SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#2: Apr 21st 2015 at 9:22:35 AM

Well, it's not categorized as anything in particular, but I imagine it would be something along the lines of "Fanspeak".

It's not a trope, that much is clear. It's also not exactly an Audience Reaction, because it's something that's very much independent of a work.

It would make sense if we had a "Fanspeak" category of pages. Or Just for Fun, failing anything else.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#3: Apr 21st 2015 at 10:00:51 AM

Fan Speak

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#4: Apr 21st 2015 at 12:21:44 PM

Also, the idea that potholes shouldn't be used to make a comment is true for any article, regardless of page type.

edited 21st Apr '15 12:25:25 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#6: Apr 22nd 2015 at 10:24:24 AM

What about when a story has a character describe something the audience already knows about, so it makes sense to us given the context, but other characters in the story, who aren't privy to that context, are baffled by what they're saying?

For example, this scene. WARNING: Spoilers for Lost.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#7: Apr 22nd 2015 at 11:32:43 AM

It could be made to be In Universe Examples Only, as there are plenty of times characters see something as something else due to lack of context. Plus isn't Makes Just as Much Sense in Context in-universe?

EDIT: Apparently isn't, but I think it would work just fine if it also was.

edited 22nd Apr '15 11:33:32 AM by DragonQuestZ

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MrL1193 Since: Apr, 2013
#8: Apr 22nd 2015 at 7:18:37 PM

I have to wonder why It Makes Sense in Context and Makes Just as Much Sense in Context aren't treated in the same way.

Regardless, I do believe there's a possible In-Universe trope here, but it probably would be better to make it under a different name. The current name is just begging to be used to address the reader directly.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#9: Apr 22nd 2015 at 8:59:41 PM

Truth is It Makes Sense in Context was the solution for a long gone trope "I Am Not Making This Up" that was not only used as a Sink Hole but also inherently broke the "No First Person" rule of editing.

As is it is a good trope to have for use on forums and discussion pages, but in general practice we encourage describing as much context for a trope example and it can be hard to figure out when to use it when writing an example. Using this trope was intended to be a shorthand to say that there is complicated backstory to understand the meaning behind a particular example, but to explain it properly and without a lot more confusing sentences would be a term paper.

TheGreatDuck COME, AND SEE Since: Apr, 2015
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#10: Apr 30th 2015 at 12:30:49 PM

[up][up]the first states that it's only weird when out of context. The second indicates that it NEVER makes sense, even in the work.

I'd say it belongs more as a wiki text, and not really a trope example. Like how people use links in examples to flavor the text.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: May 10th 2015 at 5:02:50 AM

Could we make these In Universe Examples Only, assuming there are enough examples of characters stating either "Just let me explain everything, and you will understand" or "You know, this is just as dumb as it looks"?

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Cybishop Since: Feb, 2010
#12: May 18th 2015 at 1:51:46 PM

"What about when a story has a character describe something the audience already knows about, so it makes sense to us given the context, but other characters in the story, who aren't privy to that context, are baffled by what they're saying?"

I can't see your link at the moment due to work filters, but if it is what I think it is (Hurley describing the events of the show to someone else, with some vague bits and some bits he doesn't understand the way the viewer does, right?), I'd call that a Lampshade Hanging, maybe also with a comedic twist on Unreliable Narrator.

I'd say the same thing in general - when It Makes Sense in Context appears in-universe in a work, it's almost always Lampshade Hanging.

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