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Deadlock Clock: Mar 29th 2015 at 11:59:00 PM
Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#26: May 10th 2015 at 3:08:42 PM

[up] We need stylistic guidelines to recognise the trope.

How about: hero and villain are rivals for an important period of the story, share important traits, and have a confrontation in which they talk (however angrily) about their beliefs before fighting again, and the hero at least takes something from that.

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
RedRoverRedRover Since: Mar, 2012
#27: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:33:32 AM

What's the difference between this and Not So Different?

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#28: Jul 13th 2015 at 12:16:10 PM

Not So Different requires a character to comment on similarities. They do not necessarily have to be a Shadow Archetype.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Aquillion Since: Jan, 2001
#29: Sep 20th 2015 at 10:12:23 PM

I would propose one addition to the rewrite: This trope should explicitly require that one of the two characters deny the similarity with the other at some point in the story, and this requirement should be made clear in the first few sentences of the trope description (so people don't miss it.) The denial seems to be core to what the Shadow Archetype is, and requiring that it be unambiguous and explicit would weed out most of the misuses.

(A big part of the problem is that the current description takes ages to get to the point, of course; if you just skim the name and the first few sentences, it'd be easy to come away thinking that any "dark" version of another character qualifies.)

edited 20th Sep '15 10:15:37 PM by Aquillion

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#30: Jan 1st 2016 at 1:28:44 PM

Locking as part of New Years Purge.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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