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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Gentleman Troper!
#1: Nov 26th 2014 at 4:52:06 AM

Looking at the trope page, it is unclear whether Once In A Blue Moon is supposed to be about

(1) the Stock Phrase "once in a blue moon" (2) something that occurs very rarely (3) literally a blue-colored moon (4) characters and/or works named "blue moon"

We should decide what the page is for, and move the unfitting examples to other pages instead.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: Nov 26th 2014 at 4:53:29 AM

Yeah, I think some connection between the various tropes would be nice.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#3: Nov 26th 2014 at 8:56:57 AM

Yeah, it's pretty crappy. When I first made it, I just thought "you know, a blue moon appears to be a thing, I'll make a trope about it", but then all its connotations sort of misshapenly were added to it and now its more of some weird thing than a trope.

I'd say cut it, and maybe scavenge some parts to make a new trope (or tropes).

Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#4: Nov 26th 2014 at 1:27:47 PM

(1) and (2) are essentially the same thing and could reasonably be kept together on the page. (3) can probably find a home in something related to Weird Moon. (4) is essentially a Search Generated Index and can go bye bye.

Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Nov 26th 2014 at 1:56:03 PM

@Zyffyr: Weird Moon has its own Repair Shop discussion.

For now, I'll just say that this is what we get when we title tropes after Stock Phrases.

edited 26th Nov '14 1:56:27 PM by Prfnoff

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Gentleman Troper!
#6: Nov 26th 2014 at 1:58:18 PM

[up][up] I would be highly surprised if we didn't already have a trope for something highly unlikely (i.e. "once in a blue moon"), for example on this index page.

edited 26th Nov '14 2:03:59 PM by Spark9

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Nov 26th 2014 at 2:19:31 PM

Whatever the original intentions of the troper who created this, I think literal blue moons are tropeworthy. A rename to something like The Moon Turns Blue, a slightly clarified description and a culled example list should be enough.

Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#8: Nov 26th 2014 at 2:51:44 PM

That discussion is why I said "Something related to Weird Moon" and not just "Weird Moon"...

And as for the index of improbable things, well... in that case we should just move any of those examples on this page over to wherever they belong on the pages from it and then nuke this as unneeded duplication.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#9: Nov 26th 2014 at 10:29:14 PM

[up][up] When the moon is depicted as Blue does seem to be a trope, and I think there's a larger trope over that. The moon most typically looks white (ehhh, off-white, but generally speaking), except in certain atmospheric conditions. Obviously Bad Moon Rising is an example of Red moons, but Blue and Yellow are also fairly common.

Red specifically means a "bad omen", and things will be bad, but what associations do the other colours have? Without an associated meaning, the colours are just different colours people use.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Dec 27th 2014 at 4:54:59 AM

Clock is set.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#11: Dec 27th 2014 at 11:35:51 AM

Do we want to just accept "The Moon is Blue" as a trope, with no other associations?

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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#12: Dec 27th 2014 at 3:01:55 PM

Nah, we should just axe this trope, and maybe make a mention of blue moons in Weird Moon or whatever becomes of it after it's also fixed.

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#13: Dec 28th 2014 at 10:22:31 AM

Yeah, this doesn't seem tropeworthy.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#14: Dec 29th 2014 at 8:46:07 AM

Execute it. -rounds up the firing squad-

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#15: Dec 31st 2014 at 1:43:17 AM

I do not mind a cut here, either.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#16: Dec 31st 2014 at 2:11:34 AM

That seems pretty clear.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#17: Jan 7th 2015 at 6:40:09 PM

Since we're all pretty much in agreement, we should probably put this in the cut list.

tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#18: Jan 7th 2015 at 8:15:19 PM

I'll clean the 20 or so wicks then toss this on the fire

Edit: Done and on the cutlist

edited 7th Jan '15 8:30:07 PM by tryrar

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#19: Jan 9th 2015 at 12:23:09 PM

Page was cut. Subpage about to be. Locking.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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