Opening. I think this article is better off only as an index. And the "do not list" warning is an artifact from the times where TV Tropes was trying to control the problems stemming from the "You Fail X Forever" titles.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
This is a title.
Seems like there are a lot of sub-tropes to this. I'd vote for making it an index and cutting out all the examples, just leave the tropes, maybe with a brief summary of what the trope is, Laconic a la mode. If they need to be elaborated upon they can do so in their own pages as necessary.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
And also, um, the examples here are basically the same type thing as on the "Common" folder of Hollywood Law. I propose...doing something about that. Combine them both on this page?
“My loathings are simple. stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music." -Vladimir Nabokov
I like the idea of making it an index, though. That way the distinction between the toe pages becomes clearer?
“My loathings are simple. stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music." -Vladimir Nabokov
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The plan when the change was made to "Artistic License X" from all the other, more judgmental names (somewhere an X is crying, You fail X forever, whatever else we tried) was to make the Artistic License X pages supetrtropes/indexes for the existing specific tropes about common exercises in license, as well as using them for examples of licenses that don't have trope pages of their own yet — catcher's mitts for new tropes, as it were. I believe that Artistic License - Astronomy was the prototype page. As we gather enough examples of specific, but as yet untroped variations, they would be spun off to a new trope page.
As with any other supertrope, examples that fit in a subtrope should be on the subtrope's page, not the supertrope's.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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Yep. Artistic License - Astronomy is what we were shooting for: An index of subtropes, then so-far untropes examples, ina basic sort order that allows us to spot variations that are common enough to trope, and list the ones that aren't.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
That's a good start, but the "Unclassified examples" section needs to be properly sorted by medium.
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Well, yes and no. The unclassified examples are just that: unclassified by medium. They're there so we can see when there's a new trope.
For the purpose of using the supertrope as a catcher's mitt, it's far more important that we classify by variant so it's easy to see when there are enough examples of the same type to consider that it might be a subtrope of its own than that the variants be subclassified by medium. Ideally, the "Unclassified" section will remain fairly small, as new tropes are identified and spun off to their own pages. There are several on there already that probably should be troped: the Convenient Eclipse, the All-Seeing Telescope, and the Constant Constellation for three.
Huh. We have Convenient Eclipse already. Then those examples need to be moved from the Artistic License Astromomy page to that page, and that trope needs to be added to the index section of AL:A.
Huh again. Convenient Eclipse isn't about eclipses at all. It's "any improbable occurance which plays to the hero's favor and allows them to escape what would ordinarily be a Very Bad Thing. The one about literal eclipses is Total Eclipse of the Plot.
Oy, that needs a clean-up.
edited 5th Nov '14 2:02:32 PM by Madrugada
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Clock is set.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Clock is up with no progress; closing.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
This trope has a long list of problems. Even ignoring the poor Example Indentation, we've got a page full of general rather than specific examples, Justifying Edits, and so on. Not to mention that for some random reason there's a "Do not list this on a work's page as a trope" warning, which is not a thing for any of the other artistic license tropes.
I'm sorely tempted to burn the entire article below the example line and replace it with real, specific examples pulled from its many existing wicks. And remove that warning in the process.