Suggestion: Dark Messiah

Noted the absence of an image for Dark Messiah and I would like to nominate Pain from Naruto. His iconic scene of floating above the Hidden Leaf Village preaching that the world must know pain before proceeding to destroy the village encapsulates the trope quite nicely for me.

Manga version.◊

Alternatively, in colour.◊

Thoughts?

Edit: I realized too late that "needs help" should be swapped with "suggestion" and now I can't seem to change that part.

edited 27th Oct '14 9:10:31 PM by Kin

Opened.

Already fixed the title, by the way.

The coloured version is extremely blurry. And even if improved, it will need a caption (maybe the quote cited in the OP?).

Don't really get the suggestion.

...not following on the suggestion.

I think that very same image was suggested in the previous discussion thread, which clocked out. My opinion regarding that image have not changed, so .

Proposed caption: "One who does not know pain cannot possibly understand true peace. And now this world shall know pain!"

I can't seem to find a better quality shot of the coloured version, so I guess I would suggest the manga version, but if that doesn't work, other pictures I would propose that capture the trope include this shot of him being presented as a shadowy being cloaked in divine light◊ and this shot of him trying to have a philosophical conversation with someone who he has just stabbed through the hands.◊

I see now that the original picture was indeed suggested before. How do you guys feel about the new ones?

No, it just does not work.

I cant think of any image that works really.

Upon re-reading the description, I think I'll actually support the suggestion now. Certainly looks like a saviour to me, and a caption can help with the "dark/evil" aspect.

After reading the trope I'd say Pain fits this trope to a "T".

I'd prefer the OP or 7.1. The OP looks ambigous enough that he could be causing or saving the destruction and 7.1 has a very "Messiah". I wouldn't mind seeing some other screenshots though.

And that caption would work great no matter what we choose.

A couple I liked from the previous thread.

V For Vendetta. Orchestra.◊

Dark Apostle◊ from WH 40 K.

11.1 is good.

^^Eh, their appearance is not so messianic.

V for vendetta

^^ Neither is the one in the OP suggestion, really.

Gonna say, Light◊ from Death Note

Nope. These two characters look like they are giving orders (reinforced by the people who are turning away), the OP character is more reaching out.

7.1 seems the most messianic to me out of the ones suggested so far.

Here is another of Light◊.

I like the Dark Apostle...not really keen on the others.

For those who are not satisfied, can we talk more about why? It would be nice to get a dialogue going. I honestly put a lot of effort into finding pictures that felt applicable to me even without knowing the work and I'd like to know more of your thoughts.

edited 28th Oct '14 8:45:44 PM by Kin

Because nothing in the Naruto suggestions illustrates "messianic" for me. In the OP image, it's just a floating dude destroying a city and overlaps way too much with Omnicidal Maniac. 7.2. is just two people fighting each other and one of them is losing. 7.1. might work, but I don't like how grainy it appears.

Also, since this page has already gone through three IP discussions without going anywhere, can we just crowner it and let it get done quickly?

19 has a religious feel too, with the Sistine Steal thing. Though it is flipped.

Made crowner.

Crowner hooked.

Thank you for the feedback, The Adept Rogue.