Yes, they're still distaff/spear counterparts, but that doesn't mean that they can't be genderswapped if a work's creator builds a world where it would work out that the princess is the one who's expected to rule and the prince is the one who's rebelling against the non-ruling trappings. If that were the case, the example should be added to the page with a note that it's a genderswap.
Succinctly put: The Rebel Prince doesn't want the responsibilities his position includes for destines him for. The Rebellious Princess doesn't want the limitations or trappings of hers.
edited 21st Aug '14 8:31:13 PM by Madrugada
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.If there wouldn't be any difference between them being princes or princesses other than gender it would've been one trope, not two. The same kind of goes for any trope, and about any trope that says Always (Gender) can be genderswapped assuming the other circumstances of the trope fits.
I kind of wonder how many, if any, examples there are that are slotted just for gender and ignoring the actual differences.
edited 21st Aug '14 9:22:25 PM by AnotherDuck
Check out my fanfiction!Like Duck said, there's always supposed to be little differences between the male and female version for there to be two pages.
Distaff Counterpart: If a normally gender-specific trope (Always Female or Always Male) is played on its opposite gender anyway, that's a Gender-Inverted Trope (otherwise known as a rare male/female example).
For example Team Dad says, "The opposite number to the Team Mom, more often than not the disciplinarian, lead-by-example-kind of character in contrast to the warm, nurturing tendencies of a Team Mom."
Based on the differences between them it would be possible to have a female Rebel Prince or a male Rebellious Princess. The only examples I can think of are princesses without brothers.
edited 23rd Aug '14 10:54:34 AM by lexicon
Actually, would a princess who wants to avoid the responsibilities of ruling be a gender-flipped Rebel Prince, or would they be an atypical Rebellious Princess?
"It takes an idiot to do cool things, that's why it's cool" - Haruhara HarukoThey'd be a Gender-flipped Rebel Prince. That's the difference between the two tropes: The Rebel Prince doesn't want to be the ruler, the Rebellious Princess doesn't want to be limited to the expected behavior of her position. The sex or gender or the rebelling child is not the important part of the trope.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
According to Rebel Prince's description, the chief distinction between it and Rebellious Princess is that the Rebel Prince is mainly opposed to inheriting his responsibilities, whereas the Rebellious Princess is rebelling against other aspects of their privileged position. If that's the case, are these tropes actually distaff/spear counterparts? It seems like it could be possible to have a female character who more closely fits the Rebel Prince if the setting has gender-neutral or matriarchal inheritance rules.