Pretty sure we have comicbook pages for books with movies. I suppose this could be set up as a franchise, but I'm not sure anything is being damaged by the present duplication. Pages are free, after all.
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There are no TV tropes pages for comic book adaptations of animated films, only for the films themselves.
That does not mean we can't get pages for them. Otherwise, I don't see a reason for action.
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An adaptation of a work in a different media format is not the same work. As long as the pages reference each other and make the nature of the relationship clear, I see no pressing reason to merge.
I understand why a novel and a film can both have a separate page. To name just one example: A Clockwork Orange differs a lot compared to the film version, so not all tropes will be the same. Star Wars still differs from a novelization of the film, because the novels add more details to the story.
But in this specific case the comic book adaptation really adds nothing to the film. It's the exact same story without any variations. Faithful adaptation, yes, but no extra scenes or plot points in more detail.
To me it would be the same as taking an article about a specific Disney movie and adding a page for a scene by scene comic book adaptation of that same movie that just rehashes everything you already saw on the screen.
Shouldn't two different articles about the same work in two different media have at least have a bunch of differences to discuss, concerning their respective media? Otherwise you could just create a new page for every new special effects updated release of "Star Wars", regardless of the fact that it's the exact same story.
It's a matter on how the articles start out.
If they start out with the original medium and the adaptation on the same page, we don't bother splitting them unless there is a significant difference.
However, if they are already split, I wouldn't bother to re-merge them.
Plus, their example sections aren't quite the same.
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I don't see a need to do anything, myself.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
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The comic book shouldn't be in the Recap/ namespace: it belongs in Comic Book/. So even if we don't merge, the one page needs moving.
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Re-clocking; does anything still need to be done here?
Still feel that both articles are duplicates of each other, with the only difference being their medium. All of it can be put into own article.
@ Septimus: Yeah, not all tropes are the same, but that's only because these articles were created separate from each other. If you look at the story you'll quickly notice that it's the exact same one.
Also, are there any Asterix fans out there who could judge it too? I feel like most people here aren't familiar with either the film, the book or the franchise in general? That makes it difficult to compare both versions.
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The article Asterix Conquers Rome is a virtual duplicate of The Twelve Tasks of Asterix. For those who don't know the back story: "The 12 Tasks of Asterix" was a 1976 animated movie based on an original script and not an actual album. Afterwards two totally different comic book adaptations of this story were released, but not in the official Asterix canon. In a nutshell, Asterix Conquers Rome is in fact the exact same story, thus repeating many of the same descriptions and tropes found in The Twelve Tasks of Asterix.
To avoid further confusion I would remove the page Asterix Conquers Rome and put all the information found there on the page The Twelve Tasks of Asterix. Especially because:
1) There are no TV tropes pages for comic book adaptations of animated films, only for the films themselves.
2) Asterix and Cleopatra is also an Asterix story that has been adapted to the movie screen. Twice! Once as an animated film and again as a live-action adaptation. Yet it only has one page where all the tropes for both the comic book story and the films are listed.
3) The "Asterix Conquers Rome" album is not even an official Asterix story. One album, the comic strip version, is a very obscure publication with art that's not even drawn by Uderzo himself, but apparently his brother. It is cheaply put together and only takes up 27 pages instead of the usual 44. Also, it is not even included in the official Asterix album canon and difficult to find nowadays. More information about it here: [1]
and here [2]
4) The other comic book version of this story is not even a comic strip. It's basically a novel with some illustrations based on screenshots from the film next to it. This one is only available in the English language adaptations of Asterix, not in the original French one, nor any other foreign publications.
edited 5th Aug '14 3:10:43 AM by Patachou