NSFW/Image Macro: I Need To Go Iron My Dog

Yeah, this is basically an image macro. Maybe we could grab an image out of the Webcomic section or something.

I don't know if the current is a subtitle or not, but something that's more clear that it's actual dialogue and more unusual-sounding would be preferable.

edited 18th Jul '14 10:47:07 AM by Willbyr

Most of the images that pop up when GIS'ing that don't have that sub-text, so I'll go with macro.

There are certainly lot of good candidates in the Webcomics section. I suspect the Comic books section also has a good number.

It's not a macro. The subtitle is the exact line he says in the show.

Here's the scene:

Do we really want to encourage using images that need the line spoken in the scene subtitled onto it to make any sense for the page it's on?

To be fair, we do that all the time with comics. This isn't really that different.

I don't like it when we do it with comics either, but it's better than nothing, as is this image.

Thing is, when we do it with comics, there's usually context. Here, not so much.

So if you changed that subtitle to a speech bubble, it would suddenly be okay?

No, because the issue for me here is the lack of context, not the medium. Should have made that clearer originally.

I believe what Tdgoodrich1 means is that the image portion (minus the subtitle) doesn't add much, and I agree. We often reject comic strips that are just talking heads, too. But it does say that it's an old guy speaking to an old lady (probably his wife) and that he's getting up and leaving the dinner table, which is context that the text alone wouldn't give you. Mediocre but better than nothing.

edited 20th Jul '14 1:28:36 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Aye, if this is not a macro, it illustrates just enough for Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

That's the thing, though: what exactly does it illustrate? Someone saying something. At least with comics, the speech is printed right in the original.

Does this mean this pic would still be acceptable if the line being spoken was in the caption rather than Photoshopping it directly into the image?

We've accepted subtitles before when they are necessary to explain how the page image fits the trope.

That's a comment, not an endorsement, by the way.

The image illustrates that someone is standing up. It's not a long shot from the text that the person is leaving after having made a sloppy excuse.

^^^ It illustrates that the speaker is getting up and leaving their unfinished dinner. Not much, but it does say "this is an excuse to leave" without having to spell that out.

"Does this mean this pic would still be acceptable if the line being spoken was in the caption rather than Photoshopping it directly into the image?" It's bad either way, but yeah that would still probably be better than nothing.

edited 20th Jul '14 2:45:25 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Fine, then, if we're going to keep this image, I say we use a version where the line is NOT printed directly onto the image, and is instead in the caption, or else we'll have this discussion all over again eventually.

That's a good point, but knowing the people around here, we're going to get JAFAAC complaints. No pleasing people.

Well, then, that says something, doesn't it?

Given two images that are literally identical except for whether the text is inside or below the image, I think "inside" is very slightly better. The "text in the image is the same as text below the image" argument is usually made when comparing images that are not exactly alike except for that, and "the same" is perhaps a small exaggeration, strictly it should be "almost the same".

Like, that makes a 0.00001% difference, so if you are comparing two images that are 90% good and 80% good, it doesn't matter where the text is, but if you are comparing two images that are 50.0% good and 50.00001% good, it does. So, point taken, but I think actually making that change (use a version where the line is not printed directly onto the image) is a bad idea, it would be a slight downgrade.

edited 20th Jul '14 8:46:42 PM by rodneyAnonymous

I agree with what Rodney said; all other things being equal (which they almost never are, but in this case, we're talking about the exact same image), I prefer the text to be inside the image rather than outside.

If I've understood the rules in the sticky topic correctly, "might as well be a quote/caption" is supposed to be used as an argument to switch images, not to pull them. If you can't come up with a replacement, a text-reliant image can still stay as long as it's not actively misleading.

^ You are correct. "Might as well be a quote", by itself, is not a sufficient reason to pull a page image without something better to replace it with.

I won't say this is a good image, but it's not bad enough to pull without a replacement.

Finally getting to where I can look up some examples. Here's some thoughts: Last panel or panels 2 + 3...the other webcomic suggestions I have don't seem to work as well.