Just a Face and a Caption: Villainous Crush

I am totally lost when I look at this picture. It only shows two people, a fire and some Bizarrchitecture in the background.

I'd say that creepy smirk he's giving her and her horrid reaction say enough. I say keep.

+1 to replace; he looks smugly triumphant more than lustful/crushy/whatever.

How's the last panel of this or this?

Actually, Sinfest is all over this...maybe the last two panels of this?

edited 9th May '14 9:07:31 PM by Willbyr

3.1 is okay. 3.2 looks very light on the evil. For 3.3, I think it's better to use the second panel with the last, rather than the last two.

I prefer 3.1, though 3.3 with second and last works.

Definitively replace the current - it looks triumphalist not crush-y.

Y'know, I just realized that in the B/W strip, she's writing a poem...since she's a devil girl, and is at the "Sell Your Soul" booth, I think the first and last panels might work even better than the second and last.

Here we go:

edited 10th May '14 7:41:18 AM by Willbyr

I like the current quite a bit.

The devil girl is a Minion with an F in Evil, weakens it a lot IMO. Not everybody has no context.

edited 10th May '14 1:40:33 PM by rodneyAnonymous

"Conversely, this trope can be played as a humanizing factor, making the character into more of an Anti-Villain, and the love interest may act as a Morality Pet. Taken all the way, it may become Love Redeems."

Still applies, I think.

Second does seem better.

edited 10th May '14 10:24:40 PM by AnotherDuck

We could use a pic of Dark Helmet playing with his dolls. Or Joker coming on to Vale from the Batman movie.

Tell you what, if that Legion of Doom webcomic I've been working on ever gets out of Development Hell, I'll let you use a panel where Luthor is checking out Supergirl.

Come to think of it, do we have to change the current completely? Frollo is a good example, and there are probably other more illustrative scenes than the image we have now.

[1]◊ [2]◊ [3]◊

Second is the best of those.

They may come from a better example, but the images themselves aren't very strong on the "villainous" part of the trope. As such, I prefer the suggestions in 7.

I like 11.2. Frollo looks villainous to me, and he has Esmerelda by the arm.

edited 16th May '14 5:12:55 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Not really sold on anything in 11, they look more sleazy/molesty than crushy...if the trope was Villainous Lust I'd say they'd be great but for this, not so much.

edited 16th May '14 5:10:21 PM by Willbyr

Wow that is a fine distinction :)

Now that Willbyr has brought it up, I do think the difference between love and rape is significant. The trope description includes phrases like "If this crush takes a turn for the perverse, this can lead to," "This trope can be played as a humanizing factor," and "Taken all the way, it may become Love Redeems," which seems to indicate that even though the trope is about villains, it doesn't always have to be a negative portrayal. I would consider that to be another point in favor of 7.1 or 7.2—they hint at the more sympathetic side of the trope, rather than just making it look like a clone of I Have You Now, My Pretty.

edited 16th May '14 11:06:31 PM by MrL1193

OK; yeah. Let's go for one of the 7 pics then.

Bump; any other thoughts?

I meant a fine distinction to make about the Hunchback images, not in general; of course there is a distinction in general.

That is fine, though.

Clock is set.

Clock's up; locking for inactivity/lack of consensus. No action is to be taken based on this thread.