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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#327: Jul 29th 2014 at 7:06:40 PM

The Japanese government is trying to financially help abduction victims and their families as they continue to settle back in Japan.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#328: Jul 31st 2014 at 6:51:41 AM

CCTV-4 reported that the American Navy and the JMSDF are conducting exercises and has reported that they're trying to be friends with India, with reports that Agni-III is to be used as an anti-satellite weapon.

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Cyran FATAL Survivor Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#329: Jul 31st 2014 at 11:08:00 AM

Whoops. Fixing.

edited 31st Jul '14 11:18:14 AM by Cyran

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#330: Jul 31st 2014 at 11:12:21 AM

[up]There's a South Asia thread, if I'm not mistaken. Post it there, since India is not part of East Asia.

Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#331: Jul 31st 2014 at 10:14:15 PM

China's massive headaches from Hong Kong to Xinjiang.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#332: Aug 1st 2014 at 2:16:05 AM

I noticed how on many articles about current Japan in terms of politics, there always seem to be someone who brings up Japanese War Crimes and how the nation is no different now than it was then.

Man, some people hold grudges. Not saying that Japan is completely blameless, but I simply tire of hearing this over and over again.

Culminus I don't culminate! Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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#333: Aug 1st 2014 at 3:07:22 AM

We know there can only be several ways to stop that thinking from spreading. One of them is for the National Diet of Japan to acknowledge WW-2, as in every member of it.

Same as usual.... Wing it.
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#334: Aug 1st 2014 at 5:52:29 AM

The idea of moving the graves of those who aren't considered war criminals from Yasukuni sounds appealing.

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Maybe disbanding the violent uyoku dantais sounds nice too.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#335: Aug 1st 2014 at 6:16:36 AM

Seems like it'd be a lot less work just to move the ones who were war criminals, since they're in the minority there, if I'm not mistaken.

Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#336: Aug 1st 2014 at 6:28:56 AM

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Only the JCP and JSP acknowledge it since their members were arrested for saying no to their colonial expansion from Korea to SEA.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#337: Aug 1st 2014 at 10:27:25 AM

Japan wouldn't be dealing with this level of blame and resentment had they shown the type of contrition the Germans have been showing since 1945. Unfortunately there is an active nationalist wing obsessed with whitewashing Japan's atrocities while playing up things like the atomic bombings. When a state as brutal as Imperial Japan is admired by several vocal and prominent groups who continuously play down it's crimes, you can't blame the victims for feeling a lot of resentment. If Japan treated it's ultra-nationalists the way Germany does neo-Nazis, they might not have this problem.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#338: Aug 1st 2014 at 10:47:35 AM

Well hey, that is definitely a problem with Japan, and it takes those from China and the like to show them that. But sometimes China goes so far with this that they become no better themselves.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#339: Aug 1st 2014 at 1:26:40 PM

Not to mention that China's own past (and present) are far from spotless.

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#340: Aug 1st 2014 at 1:30:44 PM

Since we might risk getting into an unhealthy discussion, here's some links to change the subject:

China's 'People's War' Against Terrorism. China is trying to enlist civilian help in its war on terror, but there are dangers to this approach.

China Leaks News of Third-Generation ICBM. And other stories.

Will Xi and Abe Meet at APEC in Beijing?

Chinese Hackers Target Israel’s Iron Dome.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#341: Aug 1st 2014 at 3:01:51 PM

@ Rationalinsanity: It's also a cultural thing for Japan as well.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#342: Aug 1st 2014 at 5:28:51 PM

Unfortunately when you intensely attack something that someone is emotionally invested in for some reason (their beliefs, their fandom, their hobbies, their view of history, etc.), a common response for them is not to consider your viewpoint and rationally balance it against their own, but rather to take it as a personal attack and dig in like the 3rd Infantry Division holding off a German assault on the Marne. You don't convince them to change their views, you just further reinforce them by being an asshole.

See: Most heated arguments regarding politics, religion, or sportsnote 

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#343: Aug 1st 2014 at 6:00:58 PM

[up] And that's why it may be a good idea to just be blasely critical.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#344: Aug 1st 2014 at 6:28:38 PM

I don't get why mainland Chinese hackers would want to target Israel since they have good relationship in terms of military technology and whatnot.

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#345: Aug 1st 2014 at 6:42:04 PM

[up]Due to Israel's relations with the US, China wants access to American technology by any means possible in order to be able to defend itself better. It's a mixture of geopolitical strategy and tech development, imo.

edited 1st Aug '14 8:06:05 PM by Quag15

entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#346: Aug 1st 2014 at 8:05:27 PM

China's Real Goal: Destroy the Regional Order in East Asia?

And don't forget to read their comments section for your regular dose of facepalm-inducing comments!

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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#347: Aug 2nd 2014 at 8:32:29 PM

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Oh, you mean the People's Daily List of 50 Cent Party Speeches?

You know that they're members of the Party considering that Western websites are on the far side of the Great Firewall of China; unless if they're from Hong Kong, but most people there wouldn't ever bother trying to defend the PRC for obvious reasons.

edited 2nd Aug '14 8:33:01 PM by FluffyMcChicken

Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#348: Aug 2nd 2014 at 9:15:19 PM

Following a FUBAR situation where a CCP-backed imam is assassinated in downtown Xinjiang, Public Security Police arrested a university professor of Uyghur was arrested for encouraging separatism.

Note that the imam is not liked by the populace and the professor had talked to foreign media about problems in the rest, especially with the 2008 unrest.

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IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#350: Aug 4th 2014 at 5:00:27 PM

Japan: Hate Speech vs. Free Speech.

Sweet Jesus. The things that they do...


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