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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Mar 29th 2014 at 3:46:24 PM

This is a textbook JAFAAC. There's two faces in the image, and nothing else, and I have no idea who these people are or how at all they relate to the trope at hand.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#2: Mar 29th 2014 at 6:26:30 PM

Doesn't help that it's unsourced. I'm guessing it's Star Wars Expanded Universe or something.

First thing to come to my mind, although it's still kinda weak on trope illustration

edited 29th Mar '14 6:26:55 PM by ShadowHog

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#3: Mar 29th 2014 at 8:17:11 PM

Wow, that's a textbook JAFAAC if there ever was one. Palpatine/Vader is weak, but is an improvement due to the lightsabers giving them some cohesion.

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#4: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:24:42 AM

@2 is better than the current.

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#5: Mar 30th 2014 at 9:14:21 PM

#2 is not particularly good, but it is still preferable to both the current and no image. If nothing better is suggested, it has my vote.

edited 30th Mar '14 9:14:35 PM by CompletelyNormalGuy

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#6: Mar 30th 2014 at 11:59:23 PM

I'm good with #2.

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tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Apr 1st 2014 at 6:13:20 PM

What is this trope? How is it different from The Dragon?

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#8: Apr 1st 2014 at 6:22:51 PM

Possibly, but one of the consequences of TRS's perennial backlog is that we have quite a lot of duplicate or near-duplicate tropes.

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#9: Apr 1st 2014 at 7:49:17 PM

I think this is meant to be a very specific subtrope or a Sister Trope of Big Bad Duumvirate, where instead of being rough equals partnered up for mutual benefit, the Big Bad acquires a slightly lesser Bad to work with/for him...not quite a Dragon, but along the same lines. TRS might be a better route to take.

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#10: Apr 1st 2014 at 9:29:59 PM

Well, if this trope is different from The Dragon, should we really be using the Vader image?

Because Vader is already the page image for The Dragon.

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#11: Apr 1st 2014 at 11:13:49 PM

Rule of Two is not The Dragon. The latter is the second-in-command; the former is about there being two top villains that have to be taken down.

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#12: Apr 1st 2014 at 11:32:02 PM

[up]Which is why I have my doubts about replacing the current image with 2.1 because Vader is already used as the page image of The Dragon, and by that definition, his dynamic with Palpatine should not qualify as a Rule of Two example.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#13: Apr 2nd 2014 at 12:10:54 AM

The Sith Lords are an example of Rule of Two, but for that reason it doesn't make a good page image.

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#14: Apr 2nd 2014 at 1:25:03 AM

[up][up][up] How is that different, though? Whenever the villains have a second-in-command, that means there are two top villains that have to be taken down.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#15: Apr 2nd 2014 at 1:29:29 AM

The Dragon is the second-in-command, Rule of Two is two evil commanders (possibly including The Dragon, possibly not).

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#16: Apr 2nd 2014 at 8:07:09 AM

I'm not sure why Vader being on The Dragon is a problem. I mean, Palpatine's also on Big Bad, and the whole trope is about a particular kind of relationship between the Big Bad and The Dragon that the two of them in particular exhibit (master and apprentice, and nary anyone else - unless you count Starkiller, and I can't say as I do - with the master readily willing to get a new apprentice, or the apprentice willing to take somebody on and become the new master). Sounds more like a reason for the image than one against.

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#17: Apr 2nd 2014 at 9:08:35 AM

Now that sounds like a trope, Shadow Hog. Though if this trope is supposed to be about that, nobody told the description or example writers.

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#18: Apr 2nd 2014 at 10:02:54 AM

[up][up] I like that, but unfortunately the page currently seems to be about "any team of two bad guys".

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#20: Apr 23rd 2014 at 8:03:12 PM

What about something that says something more like "these two guys are in charge". That is just two evil-looking people standing there.

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#21: Apr 30th 2014 at 10:25:29 PM

The clock is way up on this one. Since the consensus on the Vader/Palpatine pic is weak (and that's the majority opinion on the pic itself), I think this one can go without until a stronger suggestion comes up. The old pic is pulled and the page is tagged; locking up.

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