All Purpose Frozen Fanfiction Thread

Anything too focused on romance, really. And probably anything involving Elsa turning herself into a weapon and killing bunches of people. That's what springs to mind, anyways. I try not to get too aquainted with bad fanfics, so I really don't know.

Why would Elsa even do that?

Because, all things considered, it makes sense trying to pick a few things up before going into the mountains to start your own lonely life isolated from society? At that point Elsa shouldn't be aware yet she could survive for long surrounded by nothing but ice (assuming she actually could, of which we never saw clear proof, since Anna arrived before too long). True, in the movie, it's understandable she wouldn't stop to think while in a breakdown, but I believe, given a random moment to think a little while fleeing, she wouldn't turn back, but at least would probably try picking something to make her trip faster/more efficient/whatever. If she was truly suicidal she'd just have jumped into a chasm; it's not like there was a scarcity of those around.

I think it's out-of-character for her to intentionally interact with another human being at that point in her life, though. Elsa, in the state of mind she was in, would never ever ever ever ever have walked into a shop to buy supplies. Heck, if she tried, she'd probably have cased Oaken's Trading Post in ice.

Also, she wasn't suicidal. She was just running away without thinking things through.

edited 27th Mar '15 7:20:20 PM by spashthebandragon

So, I've been revising the early Trials of Elsa chapters, and I reworded an exchange about Elsa's ice-dress. (I'm sharing this here because it amuses me and I doubt anyone would notice otherwise):

edited 28th Mar '15 10:45:57 AM by spashthebandragon

And so, Frozen made me write my first fanfic ever (and quite possibly my last).

It's not too long (I've already completed it and will be uploading the chapters as I proofread and format them) and mainly consists in purple-proseish fluff. OK, maybe not only fluff.

It will involve a wedding and two kisses between different protagonists.

edited 28th Mar '15 3:17:50 PM by C105

Remind me again, did Elsa take back her coronation tiara when she and Anna visited the ice palace in chapter 4?

At any rate, I think that that's a better explanation for what happened to the coronation dress compared to the original. I mean, we've already seen Elsa transform her ice dress into other ice-woven clothing including nightwear (and I'll assume that that's what, in your continuity, Elsa's been doing ever since she first returned from the North Mountain), and I doubt the coronation fabric would've survived that. Saying that the molecules in the coronation dress's fabric were turned to ice that could then be melted at Elsa's will makes a lot more sense. And yeah, I think it's kinda funny.

edited 28th Mar '15 6:20:22 PM by dmcreif

Was the runaway pig getting into the castle in Chapter 3 (that runs around until Elsa cages it) supposed to be a nod to the "Runaway Pig" deleted scene?

Speaking of which, how much would a rock troll weigh? Just based on Kristoff smuggling Grand Pabbie into the castle disguised as a boulder in Chapter 5, I'd say they must weigh at least 40 to 50 pounds, maybe even more, since obviously Grand Pabbie is light enough that Kristoff can sling him over his shoulders, but heavy enough that Kristoff's arms feel close to coming off by the time he deposits his passenger in Elsa's room.

edited 28th Mar '15 6:15:43 PM by dmcreif

She took it back from Marshmallow in chapter 4, but then later towards the end of the story, she gave it back to him since he was attached to it.

I was just looking back over my writing, and I noticed that my original explanation made no sense. I made it sound like Elsa was wearing the ice-dress on top of the coronation dress (or that the coronation dress magically vanished into Hammerspace until she erased her ice-dress again). But going off the timeline of events here, that would mean Elsa went around a week without changing clothes, which violates Willing Suspension of Disbelief a bit. It makes more sense to just say the coronation dress was magically evaporated away (which is really what it looks like is happening in Let It Go anyways).

Yep. I've actually got a couple other nods to the deleted stuff in here. Some of Mother Winter's snowmen are described as having tree trunks for arms like concept-art Marshmallow, and one of Hans's brothers is called "Admiral Westergard."

I seem to recall Kristoff struggling under the trolls' weight during Fixer Upper, so I'm guessing they're pretty heavy. Probably something like big bowling balls. I don't know the exact weight that'd be.

edited 28th Mar '15 6:44:02 PM by spashthebandragon

They appear to be basically animated chunks of stone; they're probably heavier than bowling balls. Maybe sixty or seventy pounds apiece.

This means, incidentally, that Kristoff is really buff given they didn't outright crush him.

"Probably something like big bowling balls. I don't know the exact weight that'd be. "

Bowling bowls probably at max weigh out at 14 or 15 pounds. I know I usually use an 8 or a 9 pounder whenever I go bowling.

60-to-70 pounds makes a lot more sense in regards to the trolls' weight.

At any rate, thank you for having Elsa cut Anders off before he could feed her Too Much Information from that Elsanna manuscript in "Lies, Rumors and Paranoia". We don't want to see what the peddler's depraved, incestuous mind looks like. In fact I think the brother of his who got commissioned by the queen and the princess to paint the new royal portraits, and then got murdered by the wight, probably had a better upbringing.

When the sisters are looking at the new frosty art gallery, I have to admit that that bit with the low-speed photo was a bit unexpected. I don't know when photography like that was first invented, but I think that would place the story around the 1840s or so.

Something else that occurred to me is that we never are told Anna and Elsa's parents' names. I'd imagine that they probably are the canonical names deduced from analysis of the Runic inscriptions on their gravestones: King Agdar and Queen Idun. But since they go unnamed, I guess we can give them whatever names we want to, although Agdar and Idun are the names I stick with for the parents.

edited 28th Mar '15 8:57:12 PM by dmcreif

Well, apparently the map of Arendelle in Frozen Fever had the number "1840" on it in Roman numerals, so I think it's safe to assume Frozen takes place in the 1840s (but with anachronisms). The names of the king and queen, however, are pure Fanon. I think it's more likely the tombstones just had random runes on them, or at the very least the detail was added by the artists without consulting the writers. I didn't give the parents' names on purpose because I don't think the writers intended for them to have any names. It would've been in the screenplay.

edited 28th Mar '15 9:22:13 PM by spashthebandragon

You've left it so that the reader can choose his own names for the parents. I guess that's for the best. I mean, that's a totally different situation from Tangled where the kingdom Rapunzel's parents govern is definitely called Corona, though it's never referred to on-screen by that name.

edited 28th Mar '15 11:55:06 PM by dmcreif

Hey Hey everyone. As the prime advocate for Tangled Adventures in Arendelle, I realized I haven't given everyone an update to how the story's been going since I last posted about it a year ago.

Anyways, one thing I didn't mention in the previous post about the fic is the author's purpose behind it. The author said when he started the fic that he wanted to create a fic that's as close to a continuation of both movies as possible. And in some ways, I think he's done a great job with it. Not just in the sense that he's continuing the story in his writing, but more along the lines of the tone Doctor Darth is creating for the fic.

Yes, there's heartbreak, tragedy, mistakes, mistrust, crying, anger, fear and what have you in the story, but the Character of the fic holds much more consistently to what the films captured proper. Adventures with a lighter edge to them. Actually, because I'm so enraptured by the fic, it's made reading Darker Fic material more difficult to get into.

One other thing of note is the author's relationship to fanon. In some ways, it's in complete defiance, like his out of fic jabs at the crossover with Tarzan and The Little Mermaid, and in some ways, it's more directly jabby, particularly in his Take That! to how Once Upon a Time used Frozen.

Now, onto the fic update. Ever since last brought in, the fic's had things happening. Big things. One of which being Elsa's first major Freak Out since the film. Oh, and Kristoff is missing, and not in the sense that Sven is with him.

But, the princesses are on a rescue mission searching for him, while the others are working to help reconnect Elsa to her kingdom. Also, we have our first Wham line of the fic. "You have the power of Sunna Leiron"

Stay tuned for more tangled adventures in arendelle. And don't have a frozen heart to not check it out.

Sooo... Can you maby tell us a little bit when youre gonna post the trials of anna story :D?

After Trials of Fritz.

Right now, I'm revising the first couple chapters of Trials of Elsa... again. I really hate Early-Installment Weirdness. Also, I'm going to be adding a new chapter set before "The Worst Chocolate." I'll post the link once I've written it.

This particular rewrite is mostly coming about because I never liked how Trials of Elsa picks up after a really vague timeskip from the movie (which I only did because I started writing this fanfic before Frozen was out on DVD or anything, so I was going off memory for a while). I was trying to make a timeline of events since Trials of Fritz is going to be an Interquel, and I realized the way the first five or so chapters currently are don't gel perfectly with the end of the movie. I'm gonna rewrite it so my story picks up more smoothly where the movie left off and the order of events is more logical.

I imagine that the mystery wight looks a lot like this◊.

edited 7th Apr '15 12:03:06 AM by dmcreif

This took me two months to write, but here it is: Chapter Seven of my fic.

In this Chapter: Horizon, a funeral, an interrogation, and the final set-up for our two mains to meet.

I have been waiting most impatiently.

Yeah, life shat on me. It just took a break from shit that reduced my ability to write, and instead did shit that upped my ability to write, to detriment elsewhere.

Hmm... Is it just me, or is this thread getting a little more action lately? Maybe it's Frozen Fever renewing people's interest, I dunno.

Anyways, here's that prequel chapter I promised. The major thing I do here besides having the story flow more smoothly with the end of the movie is show the wight actually arriving in Arendelle. In the old version, he just kinda... shows up.

And here's the chapter where I did a massive rewrite to the story for the sake of having Continuity Porn with one of the obscure Frozen children's books. Yes, I know I'm a dork.

Other than that, the only major rewrites I did were things like fleshing out Elsa's earliest interactions with Kristoff a bit more, and I also changed the order of events so that Elsa and Anna don't forget about Marshmallow and abandon him all alone on the North Mountain for over a week. Seriously, that'd just be negligent of them.

Yeah, pretty much.

edited 7th Apr '15 5:28:45 PM by spashthebandragon

I see you now agree with the notion that somebody would eventually have to call bullshit on Hans's claims that he and Anna "said" their vows before she croaked.

That Elsa forged a bridge to get herself, Anna, Kristoff, Sven, and Olaf back to land seems to be the most logical way to resolve that situation. It was either that or swimming. Although I think a couple of other fanfics (like the Frozen and Pierced Heart fanfic I mentioned a long time ago in this thread) used the idea that Elsa built an ice bridge between the ship to Castle Island^note From what we see of it, the castle is clearly on an island, and the only way on is via a bridge. Though I think there's a dock for small boats.

Well, I also have Hans try and claim Anna was delirious, which further complicates his original lie anyways.

And yeah, Elsa making an ice-bridge off the boat is just the easiest way to get them off. I'll be honest, though, I don't have the best head for the movie's geography. I think I mention the fact that the castle's on an island connected to the mainland by a bridge exactly once in the entire fanfic. And I also mention that there are "castle grounds," which I guess either means the garden Anna visited during First Time in Forever or a patch of wilderness on the mainland near the castle or something, because there's clearly not actually enough space around the castle itself for, like, Hogwarts-style grounds.

edited 7th Apr '15 7:19:04 PM by spashthebandragon

Well you even acknowledge Jennifer Lee's explanation for Elsa's powers in this new chapter, even though, honestly, fanfics seem to come up with explanations that seem a lot more plausible, like a curse passed down through the generations of the royal family kind of stuff.

I'm not a fan of explaining Elsa's powers. And the idea of it being a curse passed down makes no sense. If multiple people beforehand had the magic, the parents should have been prepared for Elsa. They shouldn't have been caught so off guard by the fact that she's dangerous.

Anyways, even the "planets aligned when Elsa was born on the winter solstice" thing doesn't really explain where Elsa's powers came from so much as it elaborates on the circumstances under which she mysteriously obtained them.

I just don't see what explaining Elsa's powers adds to her character. All it does is clutter up the narrative with pointless exposition and detract from the story's mystique. And like, is is REALLY a more meaningful explanation to say something like "An ice fairy gave Elsa magic?" Where did the ice fairy get the magic from? Why can't the characters just live in a setting where people can be born with magic?