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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#351: Aug 27th 2015 at 7:22:33 PM

Most preschool shows are by nature designed only to appeal to one audience.

The only exception being Sesame Street, which knew the adults were watching and tried to get them to not hate it; and some of Nick Jr.'s early shows.

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Bleddyn Since: Feb, 2014
#352: Aug 27th 2015 at 7:26:03 PM

[up]I guess I can accept that. The only tolerable shows of that demographic that I have seen since then was Pocoyo and maybe Bubble Guppies (that show is flat out weird at times though)

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#353: Aug 27th 2015 at 7:40:58 PM

All I can think of when I hear Shimmer and Shine is the Ben Harper song of the same name.

On my wave, passing oooooooon
BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#354: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:26:52 PM

But I just heard it has the voice of Princess Elsa!

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#355: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:08:13 PM

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Here's what I'm talking about.

What you get when you fuse I Dream Of Jeannie and The Fairly Oddparents and simplified it for a young audience.

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edited 27th Aug '15 9:19:25 PM by asiacatdogblue

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#356: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:20:20 PM

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#357: Aug 28th 2015 at 7:50:53 AM

Shimmer and Shine is created by the same people as Dora The Explorer. Explains a lot.

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#358: Aug 28th 2015 at 9:34:43 AM

"They're not making these shows for preschoolers adult enough for me!" That's all I'm hearing here.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#359: Aug 28th 2015 at 12:11:08 PM

Yeah that's pretty dumb. It's why I gotten used to hating Nickelodeon now. They're fine making shows aimed at kids. They're the KIDS' network! They don't need to aim at me!

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#360: Aug 28th 2015 at 1:31:59 PM

The problem is not who they're aiming at, rather if the shows are good or not.

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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#361: Aug 28th 2015 at 1:56:48 PM

[up][up][up] Yer tellin' me.

As I said, most preschool shows are designed for one audience only, with very few exceptions. (Most of which are foreign cartoons that aired on Nick Jr. in the States, but in regular children's timeslots in their home countries.)

If you feel the need to complain about preschool programs not appealing to you, may I suggest reexamining your life?

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
Bleddyn Since: Feb, 2014
#362: Aug 28th 2015 at 2:25:48 PM

I was asking a question on why these shows always seem to suck even for the intended age group and that get's turned into yet another stupid argument about age groups...

Wonderful....

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#363: Aug 28th 2015 at 3:48:29 PM

[up]I was just saying that the target audience doesn't mean anything as long as your product is good.

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Bleddyn Since: Feb, 2014
#364: Aug 28th 2015 at 3:49:52 PM

[up]I wasn't talking to you specifically with that comment

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#365: Aug 28th 2015 at 9:43:41 PM

Well, what do you consider a good show for preschoolers? Maybe if you gave some operational definitions here, we could get somewhere in this discussion. As I see it, as long as it teaches the kids positive lessons (both social and educational) and succeeds in entertaining them without being too much of a slog for the parents to sit through, it's probably at least not a bad show for preschoolers. You can't demand too much from these shows, because they're constrained by their very genre and purpose. And, as both non-parents and non-preschoolers, we aren't exactly the best judge of their quality. Because they aren't made for us.

edited 28th Aug '15 9:44:34 PM by Odd1

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Bleddyn Since: Feb, 2014
#366: Aug 28th 2015 at 9:49:21 PM

I mentioned 3 that I considered good or tolerable in my second post. Blues Clues, which so happens to fall in Aldo's explanation of pre-school cartoons that Nick has had that can be endearing to both children and adults.

That comment wasn't even meant to start an argument. I was confused because even when I was part of that age group so long ago I found a lot of the shows were pretty bad. Aldo explained that Nick's 90's pre-school cartoons along with Sesame Street tried to make sure that the adults that were forced to watch it with there children or younger siblings didn't hate it.

And I agreed with that explanation myself. And I did point out a few that I have been forced to watch over the years that were okay (Bubble Guppies, Pociyo)

edited 28th Aug '15 9:52:47 PM by Bleddyn

Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#367: Aug 28th 2015 at 9:54:51 PM

I was more addressing it to the people dissenting in general. I dunno, I don't really have anything to add beyond what I said above.

I honestly don't remember much of watching those shows as a kid, aside from seeing something on Sesame Street where some worm goes to the moon and being afraid of the ending credits to Barney for some reason. Also trying to slide my Woody doll down the banister like Andy and failing.

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Bleddyn Since: Feb, 2014
#368: Aug 28th 2015 at 10:19:36 PM

I kinda remember. The memories of the shows are coming back since I have two really young siblings that love them. I still can see why I liked Blues Clues when I was a small child nowadays.

edited 28th Aug '15 10:19:51 PM by Bleddyn

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#369: Aug 29th 2015 at 7:08:33 AM

Blue's Clues was my favorite "little kid" tv show when I was little, too, and I can still go back and watch it without cringing.

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#370: Aug 29th 2015 at 8:03:52 AM

I was obsessed with Blue's Clues when I was in preschool and kindergarten.

I still sometimes listen to songs from the Blue's Big Musical Movie soundtrack...

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#371: Aug 29th 2015 at 11:18:43 AM

Since we're on the subject, Has anyone seen "Fresh Beat band of spies"? It's simplistic enough for preschool-aged children, but not too dumbed down to make me cringe. It almost feels like a classic Hanna-Barbara mystery cartoon in it's comedy and timing.

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#372: Aug 29th 2015 at 2:42:58 PM

I recall there was a flap a while back over one of the folks behind Uncle Grandpa essentially telling adult fans who disliked his show to piss off, given that his show was aimed at little kids. I can definitely understand that attitude; you've got a show that's apparently enormously successful among the folks you and your network are aiming it at, and all you ever hear are the complaints from people who aren't your target audience, it's bounc to be frustrating. Of course, knowing that a show is not primarily aimed at you ain't gonna make you like it, but it SHOULD perhaps make you take a bit of the tone of personal affront out of your complaints. Animation need not be entirely for kids, but when it is, perhaps adults shouldn't take it so personally.

Still, the makers of children's entertainment should be aware that there ARE likely to be adults in the room, and so endeavor not to make said entertainment be of the kind that makes adults want to stuff cotton in their ears and claw out their eyes. This was a primary complaint about Barney, and the Teletubbies, back in the 90's, as well.

edited 29th Aug '15 2:44:51 PM by Robbery

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#373: Aug 29th 2015 at 2:58:35 PM

Of course, those shows deserved it...

I would advise any parents to hope your 3-year-old child takes to media made for older children (e.g. preferring the Nicktoons over Nick Jr.) - generally, those shows are made with the knowledge that adults are watching and thus aren't as obnoxious as the little kid stuff.

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#374: Aug 29th 2015 at 10:22:51 PM

[up]But if a child needs to develop, well, developmental skills, those shows won't help. They're fine for fun, but sometimes kids need more than just fun. Gotta have some sort of balance.

Also:

It almost feels like a classic Hanna-Barbara mystery cartoon in it's comedy and timing.
Those shows were mediocre at best, generally speaking.

edited 29th Aug '15 10:23:23 PM by Odd1

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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#375: Aug 30th 2015 at 4:04:19 AM

Then hope your kid turns into a couch potato.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

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