Unclear Description: Combat Aestheticist

Deadlock Clock: Feb 12th 2014 at 11:59:00 PM

MorganWick (Elder Troper)

#1: Jan 5th 2014 at 9:32:59 PM

This YKTTW is about a character who fights for such concepts as "beauty" and "elegance". Someone brought up Combat Aestheticist, and the following exchange occurred:

Hmm... Combat Aestheticist SEEMS like it should be this. It's certainly a better name for it than what I came up with (though also significantly harder to spell). But reading it, it doesn't seem to actually fit. Noteably, none of the examples I mentioned are there. The description is kind of bad, but from what I can tell, it's mainly about someone who thinks that combat and/or slaughter is beautiful in itself, rather than seeking beauty and elegance in combat. On the other hand, several of the examples cited therein DO sound like they'd belong here.

I wrote Combat Aestheticist and I thought I did mean seeking beauty and elegance in combat rather then thinking combat is itself beautiful.

Then it definitely needs a rewrite and some cleaning up, 'cuz the examples are all over the place... most of them just boil down to 'Kills stuff elegantly'.

Of course it doesn't help that the terms they use to describe the distinction sound like they're talking about the same thing...

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010

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#2: Jan 8th 2014 at 5:45:06 PM

I'm not seeing the problem here.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu

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#3: Jan 9th 2014 at 12:00:46 AM

Frequently when someone uses an "it all boils down to" type of argument, it's a rough summary about as accurate as your average laconic description.

But what, more specifically, is the problem?

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#4: Jan 9th 2014 at 12:29:35 AM

The issue is that the posters mentioned in the OP are reading the definition differently. "This is a character who takes delight in the elegance of war." as the definition says can lead a) to an elegant fighting style b) "fights for such concepts as "beauty" and "elegance"". Also, I don't quite agree that the name of this trope is much better than the YKTTW's current name for that YKTTW - shorter yes, but not spot-on on the definition.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu

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#5: Jan 9th 2014 at 1:58:21 AM

As in one is where war and combat are the means to reach beauty, and the other is where those means are the beauty itself?

edited 9th Jan '14 1:58:33 AM by AnotherDuck

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010

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#6: Jan 9th 2014 at 10:49:03 AM

"Fights for such concepts as "beauty" and "elegance"" in the "For truth, justice, beauty, and the American Way" sense? That's definitely not this trope.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

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#7: Feb 9th 2014 at 7:15:02 PM

Clock is set.

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#8: Feb 13th 2014 at 6:59:57 AM

Clock's up; locking for inactivity.

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