Not Thriving: Design Compromise

Deadlock Clock: 17th Jul 2014 11:59:00 PM
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Just two wicks and no inbounds. Also, not a whole lot of contributions since 2011, and the ones that are relate to formatting rather than including potential examples.

Probably would need a good revamp.

Here's the YKTTW

edited 5th Jan '14 5:49:04 PM by EarlOfSandvich

I now go by Graf von Tirol.
2 SeptimusHeap5th Jan 2014 02:40:45 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Looks like someone forgot to crosswick the entries for a page they launched. As well as having a name that suggests something completely different.
3 Larkmarn6th Jan 2014 07:54:10 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
All the Real Life versions need to go. The fictional versions are something (I feel like we've got a trope for it, I'm going to look), but the "What Could Have Been but whining" examples are useless.

This includes the picture(s).

edited 6th Jan '14 7:54:52 AM by Larkmarn

I could say that one idea is to bring this back to YKTTW so that we could be able to agree on a consistent definition and based on it see if we can make examples out of that.

Also, agreed on axing the images.

edited 6th Jan '14 4:45:19 PM by EarlOfSandvich

I now go by Graf von Tirol.
I believe that I'll make the crowner for this, and if it's alright with everyone else I shall remove the images.
I now go by Graf von Tirol.
Grin and tonic
Page creator here, yes it the page needs help. I did ask around for a better image a while back but nothing was forthcoming.

The name could be better and some examples could be moved to/from What Could Have Been.

I'm adding some links on the relevant pages.

edited 11th Feb '14 4:27:43 AM by MCE

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It also seems fairly close to Serendipity Writes the Plot.
8 DonaldthePotholer12th Feb 2014 07:17:54 PM from Somewhere in (not)Miami
[up] The examples in question, including the one in the description, read to me like an In-Universe equivalent to Real Life Writes the Plot.

EDIT: In my opinion, it's technically Tropable, since it's fictional characters coming up against these problems for works the characters produce, as opposed to real life writers.

If we have that elsewhere, then this one should go. It depends in part on how large the In-Universe sections of the RLWtP Sub Tropes are.

edited 12th Feb '14 7:22:35 PM by DonaldthePotholer

9 Willbyr13th Mar 2014 05:57:50 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Clock is set.
10 Larkmarn13th Mar 2014 07:57:47 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you

As I said before, the What Could Have Been but whining examples need to go. Those have no place on a trope page. That leaves the Literature and Arthur examples. Fineas and Pherb is a ZCE. Maybe the real life section can stay.

Name's okay, description's weak at best (Alice and Bob, mentions the What Could Have Been bits).

Personally, I'd like to cut it and send it to YKTTW because the basic trope (big plans, but it winds up looking nothing like them) is definitely tropeable and I don't think it's covered by anything else, but it needs description work as well as examples farming (there are plenty out there, I just can't think of any).
Also pulling for the cut-and-send-back-to-YKTTW option.
I now go by Graf von Tirol.
Bumping. Any further thoughts? Perhaps I'll make a crowner?
I now go by Graf von Tirol.
13 MCE3rd Apr 2014 03:33:25 AM from Elsewhere
Grin and tonic
Sending it back to YKTTW seems the best suggestion so far. It wouldn't be a terrible loss if it was deleted, I should have realized it was on pretty shaky ground when I made it, but not every page can be a success, I've made plenty of others that have worked out fine.
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[up][up][up] Cut and send back sounds good
15 Twentington3rd Apr 2014 06:45:52 PM from Somewhere , Relationship Status: Desperate
[tup]to cutting and sending back.
This is my signature

16 Larkmarn3rd Apr 2014 07:23:41 PM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Five for sending it to YKTTW (including the trope's creator). No opposition.

Mods, that enough consensus?
Five may not be enough to act on this, but it seems like we may be inclined to go with this.
I now go by Graf von Tirol.
18 tdgoodrich117th Apr 2014 09:19:08 PM from Atlanta , Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
Make it six.
"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
19 Willbyr18th Apr 2014 06:06:07 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Make it seven, and make it so.
20 Larkmarn21st Apr 2014 01:21:36 PM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
MCE, since you made the original, I assume you want to sponsor the re-YKTT Wed trope?

Looks like we have enough consensus so I think it's safe to go ahead and YKTTW it.
Grin and tonic
[up] That's a yes. Its worth a try, but I'm not optimistic at this point.
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22 Larkmarn21st Apr 2014 03:26:22 PM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
I'll help best I can. You've got a definite trope here. I know I've seen examples where someone holds up plans and then moves it to reveal the awful reality many times.
Grin and tonic
So what's the procedure? Just make a new YKTTW with details from the old one? It would help if I knew which examples are worth keeping.
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24 Larkmarn22nd Apr 2014 05:29:07 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
The literature, Western Animation, and maybe real-life examples can stay.

The last two lines of the description should go, as they just describe the What Could Have Been parts which we're trying to move this away from. Ditto the picture. Potential new image?

edited 22nd Apr '14 5:30:02 AM by Larkmarn

Grin and tonic
[up] Relaunched the trope via YKTTW. Link is here

The image is good, could you make a vertical version and one with just the first two panels?

edited 22nd Apr '14 10:36:12 AM by MCE

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