Duplicate Trope: Role Association get usage counts
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1 EarlOfSandvich26th Dec 2013 07:04:47 PM from the Palouse , Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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I do have a feeling that this is just far too similar to Hey, It's That Guy!/Voice, so those trivia tropes should be considered as well for this. And in either account, much of the rest would be accounted for in Actor Allusion, so what can be done about either of the two?

edited 26th Dec '13 7:06:11 PM by EarlOfSandvich

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2 Odd126th Dec 2013 10:17:13 PM from Nowhere Land , Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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I'd say we can make this a purely in-universe trope, about an actor who, well, has played a role with which s/he is forever associated, to the point of it either being the butt of jokes at his/her expense or becoming a big part of the person's ego, etc.
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3 theAdeptrogue26th Dec 2013 11:05:13 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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[up]Wouldn't something like that be covered by I Am Not Spock?
4 SeptimusHeap26th Dec 2013 11:40:35 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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I do see a fairly distinct(-ly written) example set, though.

edited 26th Dec '13 11:48:23 PM by SeptimusHeap

5 theAdeptrogue27th Dec 2013 12:03:17 AM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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According to the I Am Not Spock page, Role Association is the Just for Fun version of this trope. I'm not thoroughly sure what this means though.
6 Larkmarn27th Dec 2013 07:42:51 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Didn't we just have Hey, It's That Guy! in here because it was chronically misused for Role Association?
7 SeptimusHeap27th Dec 2013 07:44:14 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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Technically, because people were annoyed at the persistent usage as "This character is that guy from that other show!".
"Watching anything with a well seasoned cast will have echoes of the actors' previous roles, making the current viewing seem bizarre and humorous. It's Actor Allusion and Hey, It's That Guy!/Hey, It's That Voice! taken to their logical extreme.

Just for fun, twist the cast of a film or series into the screwiest collection of characters."

So it is supposedly Hey, It's That Guy! The Same but More?

edited 30th Dec '13 5:11:09 PM by Catbert

9 BigBertha26th Jan 2014 06:33:20 PM from Anytown, USA , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Some of the listings use lesser known roles, so it isn't really I Am Not Spock. IMHO, it's Hey, It's That Guy! / Hey, It's That Voice! inserted into a plot.
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10 Willbyr27th Feb 2014 05:47:42 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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11 StarSword27th Feb 2014 10:23:43 AM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
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Role Association is what people chronically misuse Hey, It's That Guy! and Hey, It's That Voice! for, whereas Hey, It's That Guy! is supposed to be actors who turn up in a lot of one-shot roles, with few if any lead or major supporting roles.

I'm inclined to fix both problems by redirecting Hey, It's That Guy! to Role Association or vice versa and making a new trope to cover the definition of Hey, It's That Guy!. Problem then becomes wick cleanup.

edited 27th Feb '14 10:24:36 AM by StarSword

The Hey, It's That Guy! thread was quite firmly against that option. It was decided that Hey, It's That Guy! and related tropes stay the way they are.

Redirecting Role Association to Hey, It's That Guy! could work, though.

edited 27th Feb '14 12:56:06 PM by Discar

13 Larkmarn27th Feb 2014 12:58:44 PM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Maybe YKTT Wing a new trope as Chronic Extra or something.
14 StarSword27th Feb 2014 12:59:54 PM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
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[up][up]Ok, so suppose we redirect Role Association to Hey, It's That Guy! and Hey, It's That Voice!, transplant its definition and description onto them, and then make a new trope for what Hey, It's That Guy! is supposed to be.

edited 27th Feb '14 1:00:11 PM by StarSword

[up] That is just what the previous post rejected.

Role Association is a Just for Fun page that has currently no issues with any misfitting entries, no problems with being referred to incorrectly. Any alteration to either of the pages of Hey, It's That Guy! or Role Association would be appalling because they represent a large amount of work by many people to make two pages with distinct and coherent identities in a deliberate fashion after dealing with concerns raised already in the Trope Repair Shop.

I see no reason to actually change anything with this page.
Don't just tell us the facts; tell us the memes, tell us the archetypes, tell us the catchy ideas and symbolic roles that get planted in pe
16 Willbyr2nd Apr 2014 05:57:24 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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17 EarlOfSandvich3rd Apr 2014 12:46:04 PM from the Palouse , Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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I think a crowner should be held.

Part of the problem I have is that for a Just For Fun bit, it made such a sheer volume of subpages, 76(!) to be exact, which amounted to "Work Z: Character from Work A and Character from Work B are doing this while Character from Work C..." (and so on, so forth). Hey, It's That Guy! does kind of fulfill the purpose without being so Just for Fun... I'd be fine with the status quo but this seems a bit ridiculous IMO. As someone who dabbled in wick namespacing, this can be a pretty annoying situation to deal with.

Just now, I'm thinking of having some sort of crowner.

edited 3rd Apr '14 2:17:55 PM by EarlOfSandvich

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Cut. Pointless non-trope. Hey, It's That Guy! is pointless enough, should have been cut but survived that Trope Repair Shop thread. This is just a copy of that.
19 EarlOfSandvich7th Apr 2014 10:24:22 AM from the Palouse , Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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21 BigBertha11th Apr 2014 08:43:54 PM from Anytown, USA , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
I agree with Some Sort of Troper, but some of the sub-pages could be removed.

I see no reason why this page should be completely deleted; it's a Just for Fun game where the characters are removed from a plot, being replaced by the actors' other roles.

edited 13th Apr '14 7:07:02 PM by BigBertha

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22 BigBertha12th Apr 2014 12:37:11 PM from Anytown, USA , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Found a good quote from Cracked about "Kim Possible" and put it on the main page.

http://www.cracked.com/funny-1299-disney-channel/

Canonical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions: Hey, It's That Voice! / Hey, It's That Guy! is pointing out the actors' other roles. Role Association is inserting those roles into the plots of other works.

edited 14th Apr '14 4:25:46 PM by BigBertha

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R. G.
Big Bertha hit the nail on the head. That's one reason to keep Role Association as it is.

edited 18th Apr '14 5:45:03 PM by R.G.

I've read the description of this trope several times, and I still can't figure out what it's trying to say. I'm pretty sure it's misusing the Just for Fun pothole... right?

I'm completely confused.
25 BigBertha18th Apr 2014 01:04:09 PM from Anytown, USA , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Leaper, the definition is basically: "Take the plot of your favorite work, find the actors' other characters, and insert the new characters into the plot." Here are some examples, where I am listing the actors and their characters:


On the crowner, I suggested merging some of the sub-pages based on languages. There will be less sub-pages, but they'll be longer with folders.

(We can delete Danish, Swedish, and Hebrew. Those languages only dub kids' shows)

edited 18th Apr '14 1:15:33 PM by BigBertha

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Page Action: Role Association
7th Apr '14 10:22:37 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
What should be done about Role Association?

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