Complaining: Meaningless Meaningful Words get usage counts
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1 SantosLHalper23rd Nov 2013 04:19:57 PM from The Canterlot of the North
A Gentlecolt and a Bard
All right, it seems that Meaningless Meaningful Words has a lot of complainings, and has decayed to "Complaining about Wording you Don't Like". Am I the only one who thinks a cleanup is in order?
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2 SeptimusHeap24th Nov 2013 01:53:42 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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Looking at the examples, I don't see much of complaining.
3 theAdeptrogue24th Nov 2013 07:02:01 AM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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[up]Same here. Just because it doesn't exactly explain in detail why the "meaningful words" are meaningless, doesn't mean it's complaining
And even if the examples are negative, that's not really a problem because this is an inherently negative trope.

The problem though is when people interpret "meaningless meaningful words" as "bad dialog" and use it for irrelevant complaints.

Some misuse on the main page:

  • Mystery Men: Those lines are formulaic, but they're not meaningless. Each one's meaning is very clear.
  • South Park: The example actually says "Admittedly, there's arguably no pretense of meaningfulness here," yet the editor thought it worth listing.
  • Real Life: Us, apparently, for using "egregiously" and "aforementioned" too often. (Overuse has nothing to do with meaningless)
5 SeptimusHeap30th Nov 2013 06:12:32 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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I did a huge cleaning, including some of the items mentioned ^ - the others will be pulled through the Real Life Section Maintenance topic.
6 nrjxll30th Nov 2013 06:14:01 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
I can spot quite a few more bad examples in just a glance.
7 SeptimusHeap1st Dec 2013 01:34:11 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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Can you pinpoint which examples?
One of the Real Life examples given is the use of 'full stop', in spit of TV Tropes being 'a website, not a telegram'. Although in North America the common name is 'period', in British English 'full stop' is actually the most-used term and so this is not so much Meaningless Meaningful Words as Separated by a Common Language.
[up]In TV Tropes usage it's more of a meme than anything else. Still a bad example, but not because "well, Britain uses it all the time", more because it's not even trying to be meaningful (unless it's used because people think British usages are more "distinguished"). It's less Meaningless Meaningful Words or Separated by a Common Language than it is just plain Word Cruft.

edited 30th Dec '13 8:40:37 AM by MorganWick

10 Willbyr30th Jan 2014 04:14:41 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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11 Willbyr3rd Feb 2014 06:35:03 PM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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